# How Long Does It Take You To Solve This

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 21, 2004, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524 "2004-06-21T23:19:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mike1dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@mike1dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mike1dog)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2004, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524/1 "2004-06-21T23:19:09Z")

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I solved it after the second or third time I rolled the dice. According to the note underneath, that makes me dumb :rolleyes: How long does it take you to solve [this puzzle?](http://personal.baker.edu/web2/cdavis09/roses.html)

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**Author:** ![stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stately_plump_buck_mulligan)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2004, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524/2 "2004-06-21T23:28:30Z")

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Yeah, after two confused dice rolls and wrong answers, I grasped what it was all about.

Dumb.

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**Author:** ![tanookie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/48db29/32.png) [@tanookie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanookie)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2004, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524/3 "2004-06-21T23:30:19Z")

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Well I must be a veritable genius because I spent 15 minutes on it. Then I figured it out and went " :smack: "

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**Author:** ![stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stately_plump_buck_mulligan)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2004, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524/4 "2004-06-21T23:31:07Z")

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Oh, wait, I just noticed this:

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> It had taken Dr. Duke well over a year himself, and he would always explain that the smarter you were, the longer it took to figure it out.

Please tell me the above is a joke. If he’s serious, then that assertion deserves a bigger rolleyes than would be allowed on this board.

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**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2004, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524/5 "2004-06-21T23:37:26Z")

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> [@](#):
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> from **stately plump buck mulligan’s** quote:  
> …that the smarter you were, the longer it took to figure it out…

Well, I must be a freaking genius then. I just don’t get it at all. HELP!  
Someone please 'splain it to me!

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2004, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524/6 "2004-06-21T23:43:37Z")

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> [@BiblioCat](#):
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> Well, I must be a freaking genius then. I just don’t get it at all. HELP!  
> Someone please 'splain it to me!

**BiblioCat**

The ‘petals around the rose’ are the dots which surround a center dot. So if you have a 3 on the die, there are two. If there is a four then there is no center dot and there are none. You add the total encircling dots to get the correct number of petals around the rose on a given roll.

I got it after two incorrect rolls. Must be a farking stooge. Yeah, that’s me.

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**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2004, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524/7 "2004-06-21T23:53:41Z")

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Thanks, **ShibbOleth**.  
And thanks also to **tanookie** for emailing me privately and 'splaining it to me.  
Too much sun today, I guess. Fried my brain.

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524/8 "2004-06-22T00:33:18Z")

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After about 17 times I had to admit I still had not the vaguest idea what #^@!@@ rose they’re talking about.

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524/9 "2004-06-22T00:36:39Z")

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It gets worse. After reading the spoiler I _still_ don’t understand it. I’ve got five dice, I add all the dots but the ones in the middle and I put the result in the box, click “Check” and it says “Nope”.

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**Author:** ![Batsinma\_Belfry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@Batsinma\_Belfry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batsinma_Belfry)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524/10 "2004-06-22T00:47:03Z")

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Somebody started a thread about it last week. There were a few idiots like myself who got it the first try. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Batsinma\_Belfry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@Batsinma\_Belfry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batsinma_Belfry)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524/11 "2004-06-22T00:51:36Z")

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Oh, and this may be the problem, it says " Only a basic understanding of math is required and an open and creative mind." There are a lot of creative types on here, but when it comes to openmindedness… :dubious:

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**Author:** ![bughunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@bughunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bughunter)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524/12 "2004-06-22T01:15:38Z")

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Well, I tried it about a dozen times before thinking it was stupid, giving up, and peeking in the spoiler boxes for answers.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524/13 "2004-06-22T01:28:16Z")

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> [@mike1dog](#):
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> I solved it after the second or third time I rolled the dice. According to the note underneath, that makes me dumb :rolleyes: How long does it take you to solve [this puzzle?](http://personal.baker.edu/web2/cdavis09/roses.html)

I’m dumber than you. I spent about a minute reading the rules, rolled once, and answered correctly after about 5 seconds. Five rolls later, I had answered the same damn correct number 6 times in a row and started getting annoyed. Finally, a roll came up with a different correct number, which I also got correctly. That’s when I thought “this is the stupidest thing I have ever seen.”

After reading that it took Mr. Genius Man a year to solve, I conclude that he is the stupidest man on the planet.

All 6 of the first rolls had a single 5 and no other meaningful dice. At that point I had to mentally go through each number and make sure something other than 5 would have petals. I realized that only 3s do. The next roll was a 1 and four 3s. Woohoo, 8 is the correct answer. Annoying as shit; that’s how I would describe that site.

Does this “game” remind anyone of the drinking games like “One Up One Down” and “I Want To Go To The Moon”?

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**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524/14 "2004-06-22T01:30:26Z")

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Actually, I’d like to submit that I did not get it because I am too smart. Well, too exacting, I guess. Same reason I almost failed my driver’s test - I read shades of meaning and subtleties where there was meant to be only black and white.

I considered the correct solution, but discarded it quickly because the question supposes a singular rose, not the sum of the petals around multiple roses!

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**Author:** ![Albert\_Rose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Albert\_Rose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Albert_Rose)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524/15 "2004-06-22T01:43:17Z")

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That’s cute!! I’m going to use it with my high school students.

I didn’t get it.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524/16 "2004-06-22T01:54:46Z")

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That’s just retarded!

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524/17 "2004-06-22T02:11:35Z")

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I must be a moron, cause I got the pattern the very first time! 😛

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**Author:** ![Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gut)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524/18 "2004-06-22T02:16:51Z")

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First try ! But then again I read all those lateral thinking puzzles that were linked last week. I’m certainly no Einstein or Dali.

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**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524/19 "2004-06-22T02:34:46Z")

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I suppose if I would have gotten it, I would’ve thought it was brilliant.

Instead, I tried it twice and figured it was just stupid, so I scanned down for a spoiler box to confirm. and confirm I did

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2004, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-you-to-solve-this/251524/20 "2004-06-22T02:45:47Z")

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Chaulk up another “dumbest person on the planet” here, cause I figured it out on the first roll, and confirmed my theory by the third when a 3 finally popped up.

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