# How long has Shagnasty been a dishonest dickhead? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 27, 2016, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276 "2016-02-27T07:54:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Blake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@Blake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blake)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/1 "2016-02-27T07:54:13Z")
That is actually a serious question. I’m familiar with this poster’s name. From memory he has been around as long as I have. But I can’t recall him pulling the kind of shit he has over in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=784856). Never mind where you stand on the actual topic being debated. It’s the blatant dishonest weaseling that he’s engaging in. Consider this exchange: > [@Blake](#): > > Define what your “Black” phenotype is… Tell use what this “Indian” phenotype is that excludes …Tiger Woods but includes the [Sri Lankan] people in “some” of those photographs. > > > [@Shagnasty](#): > > > > I will take the challenge… > > > > > [@Blake](#): > > > > > > Not a single mention of a phenotypic characteristic that can reliably distinguish Black people from Sri Lankans. > > > > > > > [@Shagnasty](#): > > > > > > > > What do phenotypic characteristics have to do with anything? That’s not just me, is it? That really is blatantly dishonest weaseling, right? He \*volounteeers \*to take a challenge to define what a “Black” phenotype is. His response never mentions a single phenotypic trait, and when called on it he responds with “What do phenotypic characteristics have to do with anything”. And then there is his other ridiculous and dishonest claim. I provided a list of Black people that comprises Haile Selassie, Tiger Woods, Ernie Dingo and Barack Obama. And his response is “The only example you gave of a true black person was Nelson Mandela”. According to Shagnasty, Barack Obama, Haile Selassie, Ernie Dingo and Tiger Woods are not true Black people. Barack Obama thinks that he is Black. The NAACP thinks that Barack Obama is Black. Reuters thinks that Barack Obama is Black. CNN thinks that Barack Obama is Black. Fox news thinks that Barack Obama is Black. Stormfront thinks that Barack Obama is Black. The Black Panthers think that Barack Obama is Black. But Shagnasty knows they are all wrong. Shagnasty know that he isn’t Black. So, serious question. Is Shagnasty just having a bad day, or has he always been like this? I honestly can’t remember him posting anything so stupid and dishonest and before today. Then he posts two fucking retarded, ignorant statements in a single thread. Then he engages in the most ridiculous weaseling shenanigans to support it. So, comments are welcome. Has Shagnasty always been a dishonest dickhead like this and I’ve missed it, or is this a new trick? ---
**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/2 "2016-02-27T08:33:45Z")
Yes, he is a lying, racist duckfuck. Take [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=771842) thread, where explanation after explanation is given to counter the racists psuedo-science, and where we repeatedly point out that racists keep trying to pretend that we’re making some sort of “genetic equality” argument (whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean) so that they can argue against a strawman. After we’ve pointed out that this is a strawman of the racists own making, Shagnasty comes in to post this: > [@](#): > > I can’t say how any of that will influence these arguments in the future but they have already completely refuted the genetic equality thesis. And he also posts this racist psuedo-scientific claptrap: > [@](#): > > 1. Does that mean that all black people are inferior? - No, of course not on many levels. Nobody disputes that the intellectual curves for certain skills overlap and the tails of the curve go just as far for all populations. There are plenty of sub-Saharan Africans that could blow both of us away on any test. They may have some enhanced abilities over others as well. I don’t think it is some fluke that poor American blacks invented almost all modern music ranging from Jazz, Blues, Rock and Roll and Hip-Hop in rapid succession as soon as they were free enough to do it. That is at least as impressive as generating a ton of Nobel prizes and even more influential but they simply knew how to when other people didn’t. These are from page 5 of the thread. He doesn’t understand at all anything about genetics, he has no interest in learning about, but by god, is he going to rush in to lecture us all about it so he can spout off a bunch of racist nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/3 "2016-02-27T09:21:18Z")
But, but … how can he be racist when he loved his Mammy! ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/4 "2016-02-27T09:45:53Z")
> [@Blake](#): > > **How long has Shagnasty been a dishonest dickhead?** How old is he? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/5 "2016-02-27T10:51:58Z")
I’ve known him as a racism apologist for a while. But we did make progress in that he now gets offended if you call his live-in nanny “Mammy,” saying the term is racist. ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/6 "2016-02-27T12:34:30Z")
Obama is fairer than most Filipinos. But Pinoys are brown. ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/7 "2016-02-27T12:35:34Z")
WRT the question, as long as I remember. Same with the OP. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/8 "2016-02-27T12:39:00Z")
> [@Blake](#): > > That is actually a serious question. Reported for a move to GQ. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/9 "2016-02-27T13:46:48Z")
He also has some odious views on marriage and relationships as well. [This thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=771499) has some trenchant examples. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/10 "2016-02-27T14:14:17Z")
Whoops, I accidentally bumped your “I’m a stinky ass dude” thread over in MPSIMS. I’m so sorry. It’s not safe to go back into that forum for a week now. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/11 "2016-02-27T14:54:16Z")
He’s superman and beats up armed thugs who are too scary that other victims refuse to testify, grew up with crowds of murderers, went to the one high school in the universe with organized circle jerks, can have nine hours of continuous fast paced sex with a woman who was wet the entire time, enjoys telling about the time he sexually assaulted he’s friends girlfriend enough that he cuts and pastes it, and whatever else. But that’s all legit, right? ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/12 "2016-02-27T15:53:20Z")
> [@Blake](#): > > That is actually a serious question. > > I’m familiar with this poster’s name. From memory he has been around as long as I have. But I can’t recall him pulling the kind of shit he has over in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=784856). > > Never mind where you stand on the actual topic being debated. It’s the blatant dishonest weaseling that he’s engaging in. Consider this exchange: > > That’s not just me, is it? That really is blatantly dishonest weaseling, right? He \*volounteeers \*to take a challenge to define what a “Black” phenotype is. His response never mentions a single phenotypic trait, and when called on it he responds with “What do phenotypic characteristics have to do with anything”. > And then there is his other ridiculous and dishonest claim. I provided a list of Black people that comprises Haile Selassie, Tiger Woods, Ernie Dingo and Barack Obama. And his response is “The only example you gave of a true black person was Nelson Mandela”. > > According to Shagnasty, Barack Obama, Haile Selassie, Ernie Dingo and Tiger Woods are not true Black people. > > Barack Obama thinks that he is Black. The NAACP thinks that Barack Obama is Black. Reuters thinks that Barack Obama is Black. CNN thinks that Barack Obama is Black. Fox news thinks that Barack Obama is Black. Stormfront thinks that Barack Obama is Black. The Black Panthers think that Barack Obama is Black. But Shagnasty knows they are all wrong. Shagnasty know that he isn’t Black. > > So, serious question. Is Shagnasty just having a bad day, or has he always been like this? I honestly can’t remember him posting anything so stupid and dishonest and before today. Then he posts two fucking retarded, ignorant statements in a single thread. Then he engages in the most ridiculous weaseling shenanigans to support it. > > So, comments are welcome. Has Shagnasty always been a dishonest dickhead like this and I’ve missed it, or is this a new trick? It’s a fundamental belief for Americans, both black identified and white identified, that black is a fixed condition, and that we can spot it on sight. This isn’t true, but it is one of the foundational beliefs of our culture. A spirited, if absurd defense of this belief is entirely what you should expect. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/13 "2016-02-27T18:19:32Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > He also has some odious views on marriage and relationships as well. [This thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=771499) has some trenchant examples. There was absolutely nothing wrong with what he said in that thread. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/14 "2016-02-27T19:06:31Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I’ve known him as a racism apologist for a while. But we did make progress in that he now gets offended if you call his live-in nanny “Mammy,” saying the term is racist. Oh, he’s that guy. Yep, racist and an idiot. > [@the\_diego](#): > > Obama is fairer than most Filipinos. But Pinoys are brown. WTF does that have to do with anything? More importantly, which ones have the best karate stare? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/15 "2016-02-27T19:16:37Z")
Well, no wonder he is a dickhead, his armpits smell like vaginas… > **[My Underarms Smell Like Vagina](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=371116)** > > I have never had much problem with underarm odor. I have certainly never had strong BO. Many other people’s underarm odor smells like onions or perhaps some canned food gone bad. Mine smells like vagina. I ran out of deodorant about three weeks ago... Of course, one hopes that after 10 years he at least solved that issue. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Fiveroptic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiveroptic/32/8257_2.png) [@Fiveroptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveroptic)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/16 "2016-02-27T23:59:54Z")
> [@BrightNShiny](#): > > Yes, he is a lying, racist duckfuck. Drat, ninja’d! ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/17 "2016-02-28T00:14:01Z")
He also threatened to bring legal action against me once when I mentioned something about one of his relatives that he himself had mentioned on the boards. As near as I can tell, he’s a pathological liar of the sort I’ve only met once or twice in my life. And that’s the most charitable interpretation I can give of his claims on this board. He also likes to brag about how smart he is, something that smart people are totally known for doing :). ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/18 "2016-02-28T00:39:48Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > … > > He also likes to brag about how smart he is, something that smart people are totally known for doing :). yep, he does. _My mother is incredibly talented as a motivational speaker. She has two two published books and speaks in 48 U.S. states and all the continents except for Antarctica. She is on tour and planes touring about 180 days a year yet somehow she is jealous of both me and my stepfather who is smarter than she is and we both take subtle jabs at her. She is really, really insecure about it. My stepfather is a college professor and I think I am smarter than he his and he acknowledges it. Oddly enough, my 84 year old grandfather functions like a 50 year old and he is brilliant. My mother’s brother is also brilliant but he has terrible social skills so no one acknowledges him. I guess I am #1 intellectually and academically even most though most people in my family are superstars in what they do. My two younger brothers get really pissed when I shoot them down on any type of nonsense however._ [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11431682&postcount=7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11431682&postcount=7) ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/19 "2016-02-28T00:55:44Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > yep, he does. > > _My mother is incredibly talented as a motivational speaker. She has two two published books and speaks in 48 U.S. states and all the continents except for Antarctica. She is on tour and planes touring about 180 days a year yet somehow she is jealous of both me and my stepfather who is smarter than she is and we both take subtle jabs at her. She is really, really insecure about it. My stepfather is a college professor and I think I am smarter than he his and he acknowledges it. Oddly enough, my 84 year old grandfather functions like a 50 year old and he is brilliant. My mother’s brother is also brilliant but he has terrible social skills so no one acknowledges him. I guess I am #1 intellectually and academically even most though most people in my family are superstars in what they do. My two younger brothers get really pissed when I shoot them down on any type of nonsense however._ > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11431682&postcount=7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11431682&postcount=7) Careful now, he’s gonna PM you with threats of legal action! Edit: Yikes, okay, I misremembered. He didn’t threaten me with legal action, he just threatened to take me to the admins if I mentioned his family again. My apologies–I just reread the PM in question. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/20 "2016-02-28T01:04:54Z")
I’m gonna be contrarian here…I think he is an honest dickhead! Actually, he doesn’t bother me much most of the time…but then again by most people’s opinion here I am also probably a racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, phobophobic asshole as well… PS… a guy that carries a vagina under each arm can’t be all bad… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276.md?page=2)