# How long has Shagnasty been a dishonest dickhead?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 27, 2016, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276 "2016-02-27T07:54:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/101 "2016-03-05T11:16:12Z")

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> [@Blake](#):
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> :rolleyes:  
> Fucking liar.

That was just the most blatant lie I’ve ever seen on this board - I mean, it’s on the same fucking page yet he denies saying it just a few posts later.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/102 "2016-03-06T18:12:35Z")

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I’ve always enjoyed \*\*Shagnasty’s \*\*posts. He is one of the few people on here I’d like to hang out with in real life if he lived nearby.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/103 "2016-03-07T18:05:09Z")

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Huh, he’s one of the few people I’d flatly say no to if he asked me to hang out.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/104 "2016-03-07T18:37:10Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Huh, he’s one of the few people I’d flatly say no to if he asked me to hang out.

Same. As to the question in the OP, forever. Often his tales make me want to make a list and start fact-checking him, and occasionally I have even started, but I am always too busy/lazy/have other things to do. I guess I wouldn’t make a very good stalker. But it’s come to the point where I ignore everything he says.

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**Author:** ![Surreal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Surreal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surreal)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/105 "2016-03-07T20:02:58Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> I’ve always enjoyed \*\*Shagnasty’s \*\*posts.

Agreed, he’s one of small minority of people here who’s posts are actually worth reading.

I also think that the stories that he’s told here over the years are likely to be true. I have an excellent memory and all of the personal details he’s provided over the past 15 years have been entirely consistent.

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**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/106 "2016-03-07T20:08:03Z")

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Someone on the Dope, can’t remember who, supposedly used to work with him. He never chimes in on any personal details though. I’d love to know his take on the OP.

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**Author:** ![Doyle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doyle/32/439_2.png) [@Doyle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doyle)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/107 "2016-03-07T20:09:58Z")

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He’s OK by me, which probably doesn’t mean shit around here.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/108 "2016-03-07T23:46:00Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> Same. As to the question in the OP, forever. Often his tales make me want to make a list and start fact-checking him, and occasionally I have even started, but I am always too busy/lazy/have other things to do. I guess I wouldn’t make a very good stalker. But it’s come to the point where I ignore everything he says.

Pretty much this. For the most part, I simply skip his posts just because I don’t want to see the next made-up story.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/109 "2016-03-09T02:37:13Z")

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> [@Subterraneanus](#):
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> Oops, I thought you were quoting **Shagnasty**. That’s what I get for not wearing my reading glasses.

Oh, damn, and I thought you were amazingly brave, being willing to be the subject of such an excellent evisceration, because it was so well done.

(Not that you were ever on my list as a corrupt debater, of course.)

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**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/110 "2016-03-09T02:44:22Z")

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> [@j666](#):
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> Oh, damn, and I thought you were amazingly brave, being willing to be the subject of such an excellent evisceration, because it was so well done.
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> (Not that you were ever on my list as a corrupt debater, of course.)

I felt silly not only because I misattributed the quotation to one who could never write so well, but because I’ve always liked **mhendo**. OK, I also felt silly having to admit I wear reading glasses.

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**Author:** ![Blake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@Blake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blake)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/111 "2016-03-09T03:32:23Z")

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> [@Subterraneanus](#):
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> I felt silly not only because I misattributed the quotation …

I can’t be the only one who read that as “I masturbated the quotation”. :eek:

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/112 "2016-03-09T03:54:50Z")

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Yes, you can …

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/113 "2016-03-09T03:59:32Z")

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> [@TokyoBayer](#):
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> Pretty much this. For the most part, I simply skip his posts just because I don’t want to see the next made-up story.

They aren’t made up. I am not that creative unfortunately. The only things I can write about are things that I experience directly or through close association. I am told I have a distinct writing style that some people like and others don’t.

I make mistakes just like everyone does but that doesn’t qualify me as a liar. The purpose of this board is to help people learn and I have been both the recipient and the giver on that theme for over 15 years. You don’t have to like me but I do get pissed off when people claim that I am lying because it isn’t true. I have led an interesting life so far and a lot of it isn’t good. I even have other reputable Dopers that have known me personally for many years and that precludes me from posting anything that isn’t true.

I am starting to be convinced that **Blake** is on one of the spectrums because he gets way too angry about small details and will not give up on them. I am always happy to learn something from someone like him but you can’t when they explode and resort to personal attacks for little reason. Someone like him would be a nightmare coworker for me.

I appreciate reasonable people like **Wesley Clark** , **Surreal** and even **Mean Old Lady** and **Anaamika**. I appreciate the content posters like that provide even though the latter two do not like me in the least. That has never been a consideration for me though.

It is fine if you want to take exception to my posts and questions on human populations. I have no doubt that you know more about that subject in general than I do. However, the reverse is also true. I know a metric shit-ton of stuff that you don’t know as much about. That is part of the reason why we are here.

Love Always,  
Shagnasty

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/114 "2016-03-09T04:03:01Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> I am told I have a distinct writing style that some people like and others don’t.

You mean fictional?

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/115 "2016-03-09T04:16:49Z")

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> [@Penfeather](#):
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> You mean fictional?

Good try but no. You are giving me credit where it isn’t due. I have never been interested in fiction in any form. Reality is much more interesting.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/116 "2016-03-09T05:22:40Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> They aren’t made up. I am not that creative unfortunately. The only things I can write about are things that I experience directly or through close association. I am told I have a distinct writing style that some people like and others don’t. \<snip\>

Could you just learn to use some commas?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/117 "2016-03-09T06:20:45Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> I make mistakes just like everyone does but that doesn’t qualify me as a liar.

No, it’s the actual, proven lying about what you, yourself, said - that makes you a liar.

> [@](#):
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> You don’t have to like me but I do get pissed off when people claim that I am lying because it isn’t true.

Other than the outright lying referenced in this thread…

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> I am starting to be convinced that **Blake** is on one of the spectrums

:rolleyes:  
Remind us - was you “almost-PhD” in mental health?

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/118 "2016-03-09T08:02:42Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> Good try but no. You are giving me credit where it isn’t due. I have never been interested in fiction in any form. Reality is much more interesting.

You mean like the reality where you feigned umbrage that someone would refer to your black housekeeper as a “Mammy” because such a term was deeply offensive to your delicate sensibilities, until somebody linked to posts in which you fondly and lengthily reminisced about your dear old Mammy? That reality?

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**Author:** ![Blake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@Blake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blake)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/119 "2016-03-09T10:00:34Z")

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In case anybody is curious about what **Penfeather** is on about:

2014

> [@"Blackish" .. Oh.... REALLY?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blackish-oh-really/705873/8):
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> I know that everyone gets sick of hearing it but I was basically raised a small black child by my Mammy and the fact that my parents taught an all black school when I was young. It was all good.

He notes in 2014 that he has so often told people that he was raised by a Black Mammy that they are sick of hearing it. But it’s all good.  
Then…

2015

> [@To all the ignorant people out there - stop making the South out to be some unique villain.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-ignorant-people-out-there-stop-making-the-south-out-to-be-some-unique-villain/724024/171):
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> The repeated use of the word Mammy is a very offensive slur to someone that helped raise me from a baby and I loved very much. … I will have to kindly ask one time only that you do not ever and I mean NEVER again use slurs against my effective family ever again in your lifetime.

So in 2014 he was using the term Mammy to refer to this woman, so much in fact that everyone was sick if hearing it. Then within 12 months he could hardly read the “very offensive” word Mammy without bursting into tears.

Dishonest? Delusional? Psychotic? You decide.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-has-shagnasty-been-a-dishonest-dickhead/747276/120 "2016-03-09T12:13:15Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> Good try but no. You are giving me credit where it isn’t due. I have never been interested in fiction in any form. Reality is much more interesting.

Many of us have greatly enjoyed reading your million little pieces of non-fiction.

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