# How long is Avatar really?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-is-avatar-really/521463>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 16, 2009, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-is-avatar-really/521463 "2009-12-16T07:33:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-is-avatar-really/521463/1 "2009-12-16T07:33:10Z")

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IMDB says 162 minutes. Wiki says 161. Fandango says 150. How long is it really? And more importantly, why such a range of discrepancy?

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-is-avatar-really/521463/2 "2009-12-16T07:37:23Z")

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I would guess 161.5 minutes including credits, or rounded to ~150 minutes not including credits.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-is-avatar-really/521463/3 "2009-12-16T08:23:30Z")

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I agree. It depends on if you count the credits or not. And the more CGI, the longer the credits.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-is-avatar-really/521463/4 "2009-12-16T12:48:14Z")

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That’s a rather personal question…

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-is-avatar-really/521463/5 "2009-12-16T13:36:00Z")

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Just long enough to be the most expensive flop ever?

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-is-avatar-really/521463/6 "2009-12-16T14:03:33Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> Just long enough to be the most expensive flop ever?

What odds are you offering? I have a few grand I could invest.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-is-avatar-really/521463/7 "2009-12-16T15:06:24Z")

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> [@don\_t\_ask](#):
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> What odds are you offering? I have a few grand I could invest.

So did Cameron…