# How long until everyone has to fly naked? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 11, 2006, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273 "2006-08-11T12:29:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kelly5078](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6f9a4e/32.png) [@kelly5078](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kelly5078)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/21 "2006-08-11T14:56:14Z")
> [@Motorgirl](#): > > Of course, they also say you won’t be required to take off your shoes unless you’ve set off the alarm, but I know frome xperience that the actual security screeners seem to not know or care about THAT rule. The gobbledy-gook at the site is really saying, “We’re not going to say that you have to remove yours shoes, but you do.” “Encourage” my ass. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/22 "2006-08-11T15:34:51Z")
Would the same rules apply if you flew on a foreign airline? Presumably people in other countries are allowed to have carry-on luggage. ---
**Author:** ![gotpasswords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@gotpasswords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gotpasswords)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/23 "2006-08-11T15:36:48Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > You’re supposed to drink water on planes, it’s good for you, and now you can’t even bring it on? You have to wait for a flight attendant to show up? What I don’t understand is that you can’t bring a bottle of water through the security checkpoint. You’re then free to buy another bottle of water once inside the “sterile” area at the gate. But, you can’t bring this supposedly “sterile” bottle of water onto the airplane. You’ll have to wait for the flight attendant to bring you a cup or bottle of water. How are the drinks that are being loaded onto the plane while you’re boarding any safer than the drinks that are sold at the airport? ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/24 "2006-08-11T15:40:58Z")
Someone on another board suggested that the final straw would come when someone secretes explosives internaly, and makes sure that they get caught. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/25 "2006-08-11T16:30:22Z")
Woohoo! I get to make the obvious joke: “Not soon enough”. ---
**Author:** ![Heckxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f1d935/32.png) [@Heckxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heckxx)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/26 "2006-08-11T16:33:52Z")
> [@gotpasswords](#): > > What I don’t understand is that you can’t bring a bottle of water through the security checkpoint. You’re then free to buy another bottle of water once inside the “sterile” area at the gate. But, you can’t bring this supposedly “sterile” bottle of water onto the airplane. You’ll have to wait for the flight attendant to bring you a cup or bottle of water. > > How are the drinks that are being loaded onto the plane while you’re boarding any safer than the drinks that are sold at the airport? The point is you can’t bring YOUR water. AKA, your liquid explosives. I’m sure you can buy water from the mc-donalds inside the “sterile” area and still bring it on the plane. That doesn’t seem to be the threat. Personally, I’d be fine with checking all my baggage in. I see little point of the necessity of having to bring all my clothing with me ON the plane cabin. ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/27 "2006-08-11T16:56:41Z")
I was at Dulles airport last night, meeting a domestic flight, and I think some of y’all are overreacting (and misinformed) just a tad. 🙂 While it’s true that in England yesterday carry-on baggage was not allowed, in the States it definitely was (I don’t know about other countries). Laptops were allowed, cell phones were allowed, iPods were allowed, my friend’s expensive camera was allowed, etc. The only thing not allowed was any kind of liquid in your carry-on, except baby formula and medication. Even on my shortest trips (weekends in NYC), I have two carry-ons: one with my clothes and stuff, and a backpack with a book, my iPod, etc. I would have to check the big bag, which, yeah, would be an extra annoyance at the other end when I’d have to go to baggage claim instead of just walking out of the airport, but really it would be no more than an inconvenience. I wouldn’t have to throw anything away, I wouldn’t have to buy anything new in NY, etc. And in light of the plot that was uncovered, I think I could have sucked it up and dealt with LaGuardia’s baggage claim. As for the backpack, the only liquid I regularly travel with is a bottle of water. But even that wouldn’t be a big deal: drink until you board, then wait for the drink service on the flight. It’s really not that complicated, and no one is going to dehydrate between the gate and the time they can get water from a flight attendant unless it’s their own fault. (And **Hecxx** , I’m pretty sure that you could _not_ bring McDonald’s water on the plane, even if it were purchased right next to the gate. My understanding is that any liquid that was under your control before you got on the plane is not allowed.) Do any of you remember what airport security was like immediately after 9/11? Believe it or not, things have relaxed a little since then. And I believe that eventually, our Constitutionally-guaranteed right to have shampoo and water with us at all times will be restored. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/28 "2006-08-11T17:00:37Z")
> [@Hal Briston](#): > > Woohoo! I get to make the obvious joke: “Not soon enough”. Uh, have you taken a good look at business class lately? There are some mysteries that should remain so. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/29 "2006-08-11T17:04:11Z")
> [@](#): > > According to the TSA website FAQ you won’t have to sample formula or breast milk, approved electronic devices such as laptops, phones, mp3 players are still allowed. > > Of course, they also say you won’t be required to take off your shoes unless you’ve set off the alarm, but I know frome xperience that the actual security screeners seem to not know or care about THAT rule. But British Aireways is making you sample, and take off your shoes, even if you’re on a UK-bound flight originating in the US. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/30 "2006-08-11T17:11:22Z")
Screw all this screening stuff. They oughta just pass out pistols to everybody as you board the plane. “Good Morning, sir, and thank you for flying Delta. Would you prefer a revolver or semi-automatic today?” After landing, if you return the weapon and all rounds of ammunition, you get bonus airline miles. If you did find it necessary to pop a cap in somebody’s ass, you get to explain your reasons therefore to security. A justifiable shooting is good for a free upgrade to first class (with hollow points) on your next flight. Otherwise, off with your head. ---
**Author:** ![Amaranta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Amaranta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amaranta)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/31 "2006-08-11T18:13:34Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > Solid shampoo? Tell me more! [Here.](http://usa.lush.com/cgi-bin/lushdb/catzoom.html?mv_arg=Solid%20Shampoos&expand=Haircare) It’s tres fab stuff and I always travel with the Godiva shampoo. It smells like jasmine. Yum. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/32 "2006-08-11T18:50:00Z")
> [@Amaranta](#): > > [Here.](http://usa.lush.com/cgi-bin/lushdb/catzoom.html?mv_arg=Solid%20Shampoos&expand=Haircare) It’s tres fab stuff and I always travel with the Godiva shampoo. It smells like jasmine. Yum. Wow. That’s the damndest thing! Never heard of it before. My son’s girlfriend is a vegan girl. I’ll keep this on the front burner for Christmas. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Sal\_Ammoniac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Sal\_Ammoniac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sal_Ammoniac)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/33 "2006-08-11T18:57:40Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > I’ve already thought about how people are going to get rich because of this. Here’s some free investment advice: put your money into a company that makes corporate jets. It’s not like CEOs are going to stand for this treatment. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/34 "2006-08-11T19:03:49Z")
> [@Heckxx](#): > > Personally, I’d be fine with checking all my baggage in. I see little point of the necessity of having to bring all my clothing with me ON the plane cabin. You say that now, I personally find it rather convenient to actually have my clothes arrive at my destination. ---
**Author:** ![Corn\_Syrup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71c47a/32.png) [@Corn\_Syrup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corn_Syrup)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/35 "2006-08-11T19:24:14Z")
Apparently the Duty-Free shop in the airport near me is taking a HUGE hit from all this. It’s destroying a lot of their business, so much so that it’s down to selling mostly just magazines and books. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/36 "2006-08-11T19:26:34Z")
It’s kind of sad that this is what we are reduced to doing for security measures. But it’s actually kind of funny. [This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7437915&postcount=3) was posted a little while back. ---
**Author:** ![Marlitharn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@Marlitharn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marlitharn)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/37 "2006-08-11T19:32:16Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > Wow. That’s the damndest thing! Never heard of it before. My son’s girlfriend is a vegan girl. I’ll keep this on the front burner for Christmas. Thanks! [Here’s](http://www.chagrinvalleysoapandcraft.com/) the stuff I use. I highly recommend the Lavender Spice, it smells absolutely heavenly. And I love that I can pronounce all the ingredients. Word of warning, though, if you have hard water, you might get some build-up in your hair unless you follow up with an acidic rince, either apple cider vinegar (I use a tablespoon in 4 cups of water) or citric acid dissolved in water. Back on topic, my sister and her family left Missouri yesterday morning to fly back home to Virginia Beach. About half an hour ago I got a phone call informing me that they were just getting home. Apparently there were storms in St. Louis, and lightning struck their airplane before they could get on it, and then they got as far as Charlotte N.C. last night and their flight was delayed, and delayed some more, and then cancelled, thanks to all the extra security measures that were eating up time. So they had to spend the night in a hotel, with no shampoo or deoderant or anything like that because they heard the news about the bombers yesterday morning before they left and went through their bags and removed anything liquid or explosive-like in an attempt to streamline the security check-in. All this with a 3 year old in tow. I’ve never flown and I don’t think I ever will, it all sounds like way too much hassle. ---
**Author:** ![gotpasswords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@gotpasswords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gotpasswords)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/38 "2006-08-11T19:59:33Z")
> [@Heckxx](#): > > The point is you can’t bring YOUR water. > AKA, your liquid explosives. > > I’m sure you can buy water from the mc-donalds inside the “sterile” area and still bring it on the plane. That doesn’t seem to be the threat. Nope. You can not bring ANY liquid or gel onto an airplane, regardless of where you acquired it. ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/39 "2006-08-11T20:13:16Z")
> [@gotpasswords](#): > > Nope. You can not bring ANY liquid or gel onto an airplane, regardless of where you acquired it. Insulin? Other liquid medications? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/40 "2006-08-11T20:16:32Z")
> [@gotpasswords](#): > > Nope. You can not bring ANY liquid or gel onto an airplane, regardless of where you acquired it. Once again proving that security measures are useless and the people who devise them are morons. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273.md?page=3)