# How long until everyone has to fly naked? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 11, 2006, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273 "2006-08-11T12:29:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/41 "2006-08-11T20:34:24Z")
> [@](#): > > Insulin? Other liquid medications? Yes, in original container with pharmacy label showing your name. ---
**Author:** ![Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gala_Matrix_Fire)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/42 "2006-08-11T21:35:30Z")
Makes me real glad I don’t wear contact lenses anymore. I used to wear them even when flying, and I woud be beside myself if I showed up at the airport and was told I had to ditch my saline solution and just hope that my lenses didn’t adhere to my eyes by the time I could buy a new bottle. I hope they’d at least make it possible for me to take out my contacts, stash them in a container, and put on my glasses, but it sounds like that might not have been possible for some British passengers the other day. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/43 "2006-08-11T21:42:31Z")
Aren’t we getting a bit carried away? There are far more effective measures to combat terrorism than the ones proposed here. How about handcuffing every passenger to his or her seat? If you have to use the restroom, the ex-professional jiu-jitsu fighter flight attendent will simply escort you with a loaded pistol on your back. And every passenger will view your restroom activities on the big screen, just in case you try something sneaky. Or…gas the entire plane. Use laughing gas to knock out all passengers until arrival. The airlines will save money, since flight attendents will no longer be needed. Or…let the terrorists blow a few planes up. Only this time, don’t make a big stink about it. Tell the media outlets to report it unemotionally; save the stories for page 22. Don’t investigate it. Just act like we don’t give a crap. Eventually, the terrorists will stop due to lack of interest by the government and victims. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/44 "2006-08-11T22:05:50Z")
> [@](#): > > How about handcuffing every passenger to his or her seat? If you have to use the restroom, the ex-professional jiu-jitsu fighter flight attendent will simply escort you with a loaded pistol on your back. And every passenger will view your restroom activities on the big screen, just in case you try something sneaky. Catheters. ---
**Author:** ![LVgeogeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b19c9b/32.png) [@LVgeogeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LVgeogeek)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/45 "2006-08-11T22:28:10Z")
You cannot take drinks that are purchased in the “sterile” area on board. Not even water. They are making the exception for babies formula. I am sitting the Phoenix at the airport. I should be flying home rght now, but for some bullshit reason, my flight is delayed 1.5 hours. see [my pit thread on this matter](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=383674). Yesterday, a guy who works for our company here in Phoenix was flying back from Las Vegas. It took him 4 hours to get through security. The flight was delayed and hour. then they sat on the runway for 3 hours due to severe thunderstorms in the flight path. People on the plane were hot, and the airline would not serve any drinks but were handing out peanuts and crakers :eek: . He said there were some elderly people on the plane, and he asked one of the flight attendants why they couldnt hand out water to people, especially the elderly. They said they didnt have enough drinks to double serve on a short flight. That is just so wrong. After I get home from here. I will not be flying again, unless I absolutly have to. Otherwise I will just drive. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/46 "2006-08-11T22:39:42Z")
> [@Sal Ammoniac](#): > > Here’s some free investment advice: put your money into a company that makes corporate jets. It’s not like CEOs are going to stand for this treatment. You know I wonder if this could be a boon for the small aircraft industry. I know there are lots & lots of young, enthusiastic pilots you’d love to be able to fly for a living. Maybe for relatively short flights, say less than 1000 miles, you could just show up at your local small airport and hail a sky-cab. “Take me to Fresno.” You’d arrive with your luggage, and dignity intact. I suppose it might cost more initially, but if enough people started opting for this, maybe it’d become cost-effective. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/47 "2006-08-12T00:05:09Z")
> [@Sal Ammoniac](#): > > Here’s some free investment advice: put your money into a company that makes corporate jets. It’s not like CEOs are going to stand for this treatment. I don’t think Eclipse has gone public yet, but when they do, I intend to buy. ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/48 "2006-08-12T00:17:49Z")
> [@Sean Factotum](#): > > Insulin? Other liquid medications? See my post #27, where I said that medications are allowed – I should have included the info that **Shoshana** provided about the container and label. > [@bluethree](#): > > Makes me real glad I don’t wear contact lenses anymore. I used to wear them even when flying, and I woud be beside myself if I showed up at the airport and was told I had to ditch my saline solution and just hope that my lenses didn’t adhere to my eyes by the time I could buy a new bottle. What kind of screwed up contacts/eyes did you have? :dubious: I have worn contact lenses since 1985 – both gas permeable and soft – and have _never_ needed to have a bottle of solution in the cabin with me. Even on a cross-country flight. If your lenses could have “adhered to your eyes” between boarding and baggage claim you were doing something wrong. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/49 "2006-08-12T00:26:30Z")
the restrictions aren’t too bad except between the us and uk. i can’t imagine a transatlantic flight without several books. no electronics and no books? i can understand the electronics, but what were they going to smuggle in a book? ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/50 "2006-08-12T01:07:22Z")
I think the book restriction will be lifted. It seems from BA’s website that it’s in place that the moment to help speed people along (one clear baggie to display). However, my partner and I were just commenting that a person might slip a razor phone or an iPod nano into a book and hope it wouldn’t be noticed. I hope for my own sake that books, or at least paper and crayons, will be allowed soon, since I have a flight from the US west coast to Nice via Heathrow coming up pretty soon. ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/51 "2006-08-12T06:29:48Z")
> [@rocking chair](#): > > the restrictions aren’t too bad except between the us and uk. > > i can’t imagine a transatlantic flight without several books. no electronics and no books? > > i can understand the electronics, but what were they going to smuggle in a book? Books are easily hollowed out and an item placed inside. Of course, opening the book reveals this. If we had to travel naked, I at least, would have all the seats beside me vacant 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rayne\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/df705f/32.png) [@Rayne\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rayne_Man)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/52 "2006-08-12T06:50:02Z")
This is the advice from [Manchester Airport](http://www.manchesterairport.co.uk/) . As you can see , once you are past security you can buy whatever you want and take it onto the plane. The only exception is liquids on US flights. If you want to invest in a company I would suggest someone who operates an air-side shop. With people not being able to bring books or even bottles of water through security, they are going to be buying them from these shops instead. ---
**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/53 "2006-08-12T09:16:36Z")
I’ve been really busy the past few days. Can somebody explain what you’re talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Dottygumdrop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Dottygumdrop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dottygumdrop)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/54 "2006-08-12T09:53:08Z")
I just hope this doesn’t spread beyond the UK and US, otherwise it will make my next 18-hour journey home to Australia very boring and (by the end of the journey) rather malodorous! ---
**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/55 "2006-08-12T10:42:55Z")
Sometime around December I’m going to be flying from the UK to the US. If this latest hysteria hasn’t died down by then, looks like I’ll be spending an assload of money shipping things, because like _hell_ am I going to trust my valuables to some crackaddict baggage handler. I’ve had enough stuff get mishandled, bags ripped, contents broken, and things generally messed up to trust my laptop to them. And the hell if I’ll pay hugely jacked-up prices for a book in an airport shop. Let’s see them try to beat down a petite 20-year-old woman for not surrendering her book at the checkpoint. Bring it on, jerks. (I’m not a big fan of these new rules. In case you couldn’t tell.) ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/56 "2006-08-12T11:21:31Z")
> [@Baffle](#): > > I’ve been really busy the past few days. Can somebody explain what you’re talking about? A [plot to blow up 10 planes](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4778575.stm) departing from the UK and headed for the USA was foiled, at what may or may not have been the last minute. At any rate, 21 people are in custody. They apparently meant to use a bi-or-tripartate liquid explosive, so now no one’s allowed to bring beverages or liquids of any kind on board. In fact, they’re not allowed carry-on of any kind other than passport/tickets/money in a clear plastic bag. How busy have you been, anyway? ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/57 "2006-08-12T11:29:30Z")
Oh, and [this](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4784225.stm) curdles my blood. > [@](#): > > Russian musicians returning from London after the Bolshoi Theatre’s season face an overland journey because of the new UK cabin baggage ban on planes. > > They are under contract to keep their instruments with them and cannot check them in as hold baggage, chief conductor Alexander Vedernikov said. > > \ > > German freelance cellist Julia Morneweg, who lives in London, has until now booked an extra seat for her instrument each time she flies…After her arrival in Switzerland, she recounted the ordeal of having to hand over the cello, valued at up to £10,000 ($19,000) and not covered by her insurance if carried in the hold. > > “It is never safe enough in the hold and they don’t treat instruments properly,” she told the BBC News website. > > She was not allowed to see the cello being put in and had to hand it over to the bulky items desk despite asking for it to be treated like a child’s pram, which would have allowed her to keep tabs on it right up until boarding. > > “I looked out the window and could see it wobbling on the luggage trolley,” she said. :eek: :eek: :eek: I mean, really. St. Valentine’s Day Massacre notwithstanding, it used to be enough to merely open the case and prove that there really **was** a violin in there. I can’t…Violin, guitar, cello, whatever: a fragile instrument can’t survive in a baggage hold, and telling a musician it has to go in there is like telling them they can’t fly unless they consent to having their arm cut off. ---
**Author:** ![Rayne\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/df705f/32.png) [@Rayne\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rayne_Man)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/58 "2006-08-12T11:35:53Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > … so now no one’s allowed to bring beverages or liquids of any kind on board. In fact, they’re not allowed carry-on of any kind other than passport/tickets/money in a clear plastic bag. > > How busy have you been, anyway? You are allowed to take other things on board as long as you buy it after the security checks. The only exception is liquids on US flights. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/59 "2006-08-12T11:40:53Z")
Yes, I saw your post earlier. The link doesn’t say you can bring your laptop on board. It doesn’t say you can bring your valuable, fragile musical instrument on board. Can you, in fact, do those things? ---
**Author:** ![Rayne\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/df705f/32.png) [@Rayne\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rayne_Man)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273/60 "2006-08-12T11:46:13Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > Yes, I saw your post earlier. The link doesn’t say you can bring your laptop on board. It doesn’t say you can bring your valuable, fragile musical instrument on board. Can you, in fact, do those things? No , afraid not , just stuff you buy in the airside shops. The BBC were filming a flight from the UK to Barcelona yesterday and had to leave their camera behind at the security desk. So they then bought acheap video camera from an airside shop and (with permission from the airline) filmed the rest of the feature with that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-until-everyone-has-to-fly-naked/368273.md?page=4)