# How long will it take for you to accept a Romney win?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 1, 2012, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-will-it-take-for-you-to-accept-a-romney-win/639542 "2012-11-01T09:02:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-will-it-take-for-you-to-accept-a-romney-win/639542/61 "2012-11-01T17:50:56Z")

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I blame the primorial ooze!

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-will-it-take-for-you-to-accept-a-romney-win/639542/62 "2012-11-01T17:54:46Z")

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Who even voted for the Big Bang anyway!

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-will-it-take-for-you-to-accept-a-romney-win/639542/63 "2012-11-01T18:00:14Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> Fuckin’ Columbus started this whole fuckin’ mess.
> 
> Dick!
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> And don’t even get me started on those bearing straight crossin’ assholes :mad:

Columbus? Bah! You’re off by about 500 years, mate. The real fargin’ bastidge who set us all on the wrong path was Leif Ericson!

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-will-it-take-for-you-to-accept-a-romney-win/639542/64 "2012-11-01T18:38:45Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> The retarded half of the country that still whine and cry about 2000 will never let it go and in 2074 they’ll still be blaming everything on Bush.

You can get back on your high horse when the birther lawsuits stop.

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> The retarded half of the country that still whine and cry about 2000 will never let it go and in 2074 they’ll still be blaming everything on Bush.

Anyone who has the Trumpster in their camp really cannot question the mental capacity of another group

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-will-it-take-for-you-to-accept-a-romney-win/639542/66 "2012-11-01T19:45:12Z")

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> [@Koxinga](#):
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> (3) When Obama concedes.

This. Once that happens it’s over.

And no, I wouldn’t be too surprised to see it happen; the Republicans are demonstrably willing to do anything to win. Including voter fraud, voter suppression, and having the Supreme Court simply appoint their candidate the winner. They are both powerful and completely amoral.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-will-it-take-for-you-to-accept-a-romney-win/639542/67 "2012-11-01T20:00:11Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Who even voted for the Big Bang anyway!

Who allowed that dang singularity??!!

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-will-it-take-for-you-to-accept-a-romney-win/639542/68 "2012-11-01T20:50:21Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> Have you ever considered learing more about Mormonism?

Prop 8 taught me all I care to know about Mormonism/LDS, thank you. And I’m not even gay.

OP: #3

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-will-it-take-for-you-to-accept-a-romney-win/639542/69 "2012-11-01T20:52:17Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> Prop 8 taught me all I care to know about Mormonism/LDS, thank you. And I’m not even gay.
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> OP: #3

Garlic eater!

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-will-it-take-for-you-to-accept-a-romney-win/639542/70 "2012-11-01T21:56:58Z")

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> [@Koxinga](#):
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> Well?
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> Shoot, I meant for this to be a poll. Choices are:
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> (1) As soon as the networks are in agreement.  
> (2) When every state has been called coast to coast.  
> (3) When Obama concedes.  
> (4) Inauguration day.  
> (5) NEVER!!!
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> If a mod has a moment, could you help me create a real poll? Or lock the thread and I’ll try again – thanks!

It took about a week after 2004 for me to come to terms with the Bush re-election and a Romney win is not nearly as difficult to get my mind around as a ssecond term of Bush was. Frankly, I wouldn’t have much of a problem with Romney winning if the Tea Party hadn’t taken over the Republican party.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-will-it-take-for-you-to-accept-a-romney-win/639542/71 "2012-11-01T21:59:46Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> The retarded half of the country that still whine and cry about 2000 will never let it go and in 2074 they’ll still be blaming everything on Bush.

Ann, Ann, you’ve already had your 5 minutes of fame with the “retarded” meme. It’s time to move on, mkay?

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-will-it-take-for-you-to-accept-a-romney-win/639542/72 "2012-11-01T22:12:34Z")

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> [@Shayna](#):
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> What he said.

Could you explain why Nate Silver and all the other really rigorous analysts are wrong? Why should we believe you?

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-will-it-take-for-you-to-accept-a-romney-win/639542/73 "2012-11-01T22:47:11Z")

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#3.

That wouldn’t mean I accepted he won legitimately though. There is already plenty of evidence that voter fraud can affect the results. Voting machines can be manipulated or simply fail, and the number of machines can be manipulated to result in long waits selectively. Voters can be intimidated, mail in votes and registration can be altered or thrown out.

It would be great if we tried to deal with this stuff before an election, so we could do it without assigning any blame, purely to improve the integrity of the electoral process. Afterward politics make it impossible to deal with.

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-will-it-take-for-you-to-accept-a-romney-win/639542/74 "2012-11-02T00:43:58Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Could you explain why Nate Silver and all the other really rigorous analysts are wrong? Why should we believe you?

😕 She’s practically **quoting** [Nate Silver.](http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/)

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-will-it-take-for-you-to-accept-a-romney-win/639542/75 "2012-11-02T00:49:06Z")

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I’ll accept it as soon as the networks call even one blue state for Romney, including Ohio. Now, if it turns out that what I accept is wrong, so be it.

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-will-it-take-for-you-to-accept-a-romney-win/639542/76 "2012-11-02T00:52:33Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> 😕 She’s practically **quoting** [Nate Silver.](http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/)

What the hell are you talking about? According to Shayna, Romney cannot legitimately win the election.

According to Nate Silver, he most certainly can.

Are you talking about a Nate Silver different from the one who runs the “538” election prediction blog? 'Cause I’m looking at his blog and I’m having trouble finding the part where Silver says Romney can’t win the election.

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(5) Never!

I could deal with it like I did for the eight years of Bush. Accept it? Never!

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-will-it-take-for-you-to-accept-a-romney-win/639542/78 "2012-11-02T00:57:58Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> It took about a week after 2004 for me to come to terms with the Bush re-election and a Romney win is not nearly as difficult to get my mind around as a ssecond term of Bush was. Frankly, I wouldn’t have much of a problem with Romney winning if the Tea Party hadn’t taken over the Republican party.

Oh yes, this.

I think many moderate Republicans are telling themselves that this will be like another Reagan that will throw bones to the extreme right, they forget that the Republican congrescritters of today are the extreme right that will not back down and they will be in a position to get their pound of flesh in a Romney Administration, Cannot go back to trowing bones to them as Reagan did, not when he appointed Tea Party Ryan as VP.

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-will-it-take-for-you-to-accept-a-romney-win/639542/79 "2012-11-02T01:27:05Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Oh yes, this.
> 
> I think many moderate Republicans are telling themselves that this will be like another Reagan that will throw bones to the extreme right, they forget that the Republican congrescritters of today are the extreme right that will not back down and they will be in a position to get their pound of flesh in a Romney Administration, Cannot go back to trowing bones to them as Reagan did, not when he appointed Tea Party Ryan as VP.

Or maybe Romney recognizes this and has made a very clever move, like JFK bringing in, and effectively neutralizing, LBJ, the Master of the Senate himself.

Something I remember being said either _by_ LBJ or _about_ LBJ: “I’d rather have him inside my tent pissing out, then outside my tent pissing in.”

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-long-will-it-take-for-you-to-accept-a-romney-win/639542/80 "2012-11-02T01:47:24Z")

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> [@Koxinga](#):
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> Or maybe Romney recognizes this and has made a very clever move, like JFK bringing in, and effectively neutralizing, LBJ, the Master of the Senate himself.
> 
> Something I remember being said either _by_ LBJ or _about_ LBJ: “I’d rather have him inside my tent pissing out, then outside my tent pissing in.”

Nope, there are too many clones of Ryan in the House, they will get their pound of flesh…

If independents and reality based Republicans get fooled.

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