# How many Electoral votes does each candidate "have" from non-battleground states? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [September 17, 2008, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-electoral-votes-does-each-candidate-have-from-non-battleground-states/464006 "2008-09-17T18:01:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-electoral-votes-does-each-candidate-have-from-non-battleground-states/464006/1 "2008-09-17T18:01:54Z")
For the 2008 U.S. Presidential Election, which States are not being disputed? For GQ purposes and to avoid getting into IMHO or GD territory, should we define this as “Neither McCain nor Obama will expend campaign capital on the State in question as both know beyond reasonable doubt who will win the State”? Which States does the McCain Campaign assume will go to Obama? Which States does the Obama Campaign assume will go to McCain? Right now, from the States that are NOT considered Battleground States, how many Electoral College votes does each candidate “have”? ---
**Author:** ![YamatoTwinkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/cc9497/32.png) [@YamatoTwinkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YamatoTwinkie)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-electoral-votes-does-each-candidate-have-from-non-battleground-states/464006/2 "2008-09-17T18:15:45Z")
Any states _other_ than Nevada, Colorado, Michigan, Ohio, New Hampshire, and Virginia aren’t in serious contention right now. However, many other states could go that way too, depending on how things trend. Slate currently has 161 EV’s listed as “safe dem” for Obama, and 99 EV’s listed as “safe rep” for Mccain. > **[Presidential Race](https://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/election_scorecard/2008/08/presidential_race.html)** > > A Rasmussen poll shows Obama ahead 52-46 in Pennsylvania; the same poll on Thursday showed him with a 51-47 lead. A Quinnipiac University poll has Obam ... ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-electoral-votes-does-each-candidate-have-from-non-battleground-states/464006/3 "2008-09-17T18:20:18Z")
I find [http://www.electoral-vote.com/](http://www.electoral-vote.com/) useful, especially the [second graph on this page](http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/ec_graph-2008.html). ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-electoral-votes-does-each-candidate-have-from-non-battleground-states/464006/4 "2008-09-17T19:57:45Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > I find [http://www.electoral-vote.com/](http://www.electoral-vote.com/) useful, especially the [second graph on this page](http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/ec_graph-2008.html). Thanks for the link, that site is very helpful. ---
**Author:** ![muttrox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a8b319/32.png) [@muttrox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muttrox)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-electoral-votes-does-each-candidate-have-from-non-battleground-states/464006/5 "2008-09-17T20:22:26Z")
[http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/](http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/) is very helpful as well. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-electoral-votes-does-each-candidate-have-from-non-battleground-states/464006/6 "2008-09-17T20:49:37Z")
CNN has it 233 to 189 for the Blueteam. [http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/10/electoral.map/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/10/electoral.map/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![NoCoolUserName](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5fc32e/32.png) [@NoCoolUserName](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoCoolUserName)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-electoral-votes-does-each-candidate-have-from-non-battleground-states/464006/7 "2008-09-17T21:42:21Z")
Personally, I find the colors on [CNN’s Electoral College Map](http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/10/electoral.map/index.html) easier to read.