A mild example? On the one hand, you’ve got a tough, in-shape dude who works out every day, has unbreakable bones and razor-sharp indestructible claws, heals instantly, and has about a century of experience in fighting dirty. On the other hand, you’ve got a model who can look like that other guy. And the model still holds her own.
A hardier comic nerd can correct me, but I believe that Mystique actually has a couple centuries of experience on Wolverine. She can also apparently re-arrange her musculature at will: she doesn’t just look like Wolverine, she physically copies his entire body, inlcuding body strength and speed. Plus, being a mutant superhuman to begin with, you can’t really assume that she has the proportional strength of a normal human woman of her size and build.
Mystique ages more slowly than a human but there’s no evidence that she’s older than Wolverine and her morphing abilities are superficial. She can assume the shape of Wolverine, Cyclops, or Storm but she’s not going to be able to fire optic blasts, control the weather, or hear a pin drop from fifty yards away.
According to Wikipedia she is about 100 years old, give or take a few decades. Apparently she was around in Sherlock Holmes times. Not any older than Wolverine. Also according to Wikipedia, her powers of taking certain physical traits are relatively new, and not that advanced. She heals fast (though by appearances not as fast as Wolvie), she can be much stronger (but probably not mutant level), and can take on certain traits (like physical things, no evidence she can make her bones out of Adamantium, however).
Still, the fact that she held her own for so long in the movie was a bit unbelievable. I say mild because it isn’t as bad as Chronos portrayed it ;), but it was still far fetched. Mystique simply doesn’t have the armament to take on somebody like wolverine. In guile, definately, in ambush, certainly. Hand to hand, no way.
Really? I could have sworn she’d been around in the 17th or 18th century in the comics. In the movie, at least, when she changes shape, she assumes such details as her target’s retinal patterns and fingerprints, so it would follow that she’d also be able to adjust her muscle mass and so forth, if not specific superhuman powers.
Well, I can’t say that you are wrong, I have not read those particular comics, but MarvelUniverse.com and Wikipedia do not lead up to either of those suggestions. Less so does marvel universe seem to support the idea that she CANNOT mimic the superpowers of those she takes the form of. (though wikipedia does support he idea that she can grow wings and the like)
Marvel universe is a flash site, so I cannot link direct, but here is the web url: http://www.marvel.com/universe/index.htm
In addition, MUniv rates Mystique a strength and fighting skill of 2 and 4 respectively, while rating Wolverine a rating of 4 and 7 respectively. So twice as strong as her, and nearly twice her skill level.
By the way, if you want to check out some flicks with ass kicking chicks, you might want to try So Close or The Heroic Trio.
Somewhere I saw a list of movies referenced in Kill Bill. A good list of tough broad flicks. I do a *Showgirls *Seminar, where I show a bunch of movies that influenced Showgirls, and show bits of others: The Passion of Joan of Arc; The Birds; Written on the Wind; The Bride Wore Black; Mademoiselle; I Spit on Your Grave; Keetje Tippel; etc.
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I disagree strongly on why the Aeon Flux film bombed. Aeon, and almost everybody else in the series is shown as angular, bony, and anarexic. Aeon and the Monicans all wear revealing fetish gear. It looks odd. It reflects several key themes of the show (the war being fought for no particular reason, the Orwellian nature of life in Breen, the intense and bizarre power dynamic in Aeon and Trevor’s relationship). I’d be stunned if a significant percentage of AF fans found it sexy. Aeon is drawn as a parody of sexiness.
The movie bombed primarily because they took all the interesting and intelectual things that made AF great and got rid of them. They made Aeon Flux into a safe, conventional scifi story. The animated series was filled with Gnosticism (sometimes explicitly so. There’s a whole episode about the Trevor and the Breens wanting to worship the Demiurge and Aeon and the Monicans trying to get it off the planet), weird technologies, Orwell, strange things that never get explained, sadomasochism/bondage, and more.
Butt naked, man. A hot butt-naked chick. Badly drawn as you point out, but butt-naked. Also, that tiny little thong pouch she wore about half a mile south of her navel was pretty hot. I mean, those weird tits that seemd to have a 45 degree bend in them were a little-off putting, but at least they were big.
I just wanna see Charlize Theron doing splits and high kicks in that tiny leather strap outfit. Is that SO wrong?
See this is where the body hatred implicit in Gnosticism gets you. You miss out on things like that.
Sure, it would have been great if they’d included that stuff. But do ya really think people went to theaters and said, “Dude, no gnosticism. Let’s blow.”?
Not badly drawn, strangley drawn.
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Sure, it would have been great if they’d included that stuff. But do ya really think people went to theaters and said, “Dude, no gnosticism. Let’s blow.”?
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I think that people went to theaters and said ‘Just another sf popcorn movie. Not worth seeing again. Yawn.’ instead of ‘Whoa! Weird! I liked that a lot. I wanna see it again so I can catch more of the stuff I missed the first time.’
The same thing happend with League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen.