# How many MST3K type shows are there?

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**Created:** [June 24, 2020, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-mst3k-type-shows-are-there/912669 "2020-06-24T05:57:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-mst3k-type-shows-are-there/912669/1 "2020-06-24T05:57:07Z")

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In the beginning there was Mystery Science Theater 3000. Now there is Rifftrax and Cinematic Titanic that I’ve seen so far. Are there any more “Talk back at the screen” type shows? Which one[s] do you prefer?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-mst3k-type-shows-are-there/912669/2 "2020-06-24T14:37:48Z")

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Another one I’ve enjoyed-_House Hunters: Comedians On Couches_. Three comedians making snide comments while watching select episodes of HGTV’s _House Hunters_.

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**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-mst3k-type-shows-are-there/912669/3 "2020-06-24T15:43:16Z")

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The British program Gogglebox is probably the best example I can think of of something that would fit the general mold of “people making snide comments while watching TV”.

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**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-mst3k-type-shows-are-there/912669/4 "2020-06-24T15:48:13Z")

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Beavis and Butthead talked back to music videos

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-mst3k-type-shows-are-there/912669/5 "2020-06-24T15:48:59Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Now there is Rifftrax and Cinematic Titanic that I’ve seen so far.

FWIW, I know that both of those were created and hosted by different sets of MST3K alumni.

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**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-mst3k-type-shows-are-there/912669/6 "2020-06-24T16:58:16Z")

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Maybe RedLetterMedia on Youtube.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-mst3k-type-shows-are-there/912669/7 "2020-06-24T17:55:21Z")

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RedLetterMedia’s YouTube videos tend to be straight-up reviews with a lot of mockery, but they do offer commentary tracks for sale on their website.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-mst3k-type-shows-are-there/912669/8 "2020-06-24T18:13:23Z")

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[Cinema Sins](https://cinemasins.com/) does short humorous commentary on films. They avoid snark for snark’s sake, and can laugh at themselves, and it’s consistently entertaing.

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-mst3k-type-shows-are-there/912669/9 "2020-06-24T18:53:51Z")

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The Rifftrax guys did something called “The Film Crew”, I think before Rifftrax.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-mst3k-type-shows-are-there/912669/10 "2020-06-24T20:18:37Z")

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It’s true; I even have a few of the DVDs they produced. Their schtick was the same as MST3K, but their business model was DVD release only. Rifftrax was the same 3 guys but in a “you provide the movie; we provide the riff track” (hence the name). Then they expanded into video+riff releases and live shows.

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-mst3k-type-shows-are-there/912669/11 "2020-06-24T23:38:29Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> RedLetterMedia’s YouTube videos tend to be straight-up reviews with a lot of mockery, but they do offer commentary tracks for sale on their website

Best of the Worst is probably the best show on their site and it is closer to MST than anything else they do. They watch 3 movies and talk about them, picking which is the best of the worst movies they saw.

During the discussion, it shows clips of them watching and making fun of them.

Different, but great.

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-mst3k-type-shows-are-there/912669/12 "2020-06-25T03:30:02Z")

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There used to be a show called _Mad Movies_ which was a little different in that they replaced movie soundtracks with funny dialogue. I particularly remember the episode that took off on _Night of the Living Dead_. It has a scene where the guy goes upstairs saying he’s looking for a head of lettuce, and he finds a partially eaten skull. When the guy goes running down the stairs, he says, “It’s gone BAD!” For some reason this struck me so funny that for years and even now if I see food that looks gross, I’ll say with the same intonation “It’s gone BAD!”

Pitiful I know, but it makes me happy.

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-mst3k-type-shows-are-there/912669/13 "2020-06-25T06:14:42Z")

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The one that springs to mind is the Australian film, [Hercules Returns](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules_Returns), which is also the movie-within-the-movie being parodied. It was based on a stage show that did the same thing as MST3K in the 1980s.

The wikipedia article on Hercules Returns provides a useful bit of historical context for this particular art-form that is worth quoting:

> _Hercules Returns_ is a screen adaptation of the popular Australian live comedy show _Double Take_ , conceived and performed by [Des Mangan](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Des_Mangan&action=edit&redlink=1) with [Sally Patience](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Patience). The _Double Take_ show, which began in Sydney in 1986, is part of the “dub parody” genre, in which ostensibly serious films are deliberately re-voiced in a satirical or spoof manner.[[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules_Returns#cite_note-sh880821-2) Well-known examples of this genre include the 1960s [Jay Ward](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Ward) TV series _[Fractured Flickers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractured_Flickers)_ and [Woody Allen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woody_Allen)’s _[What’s Up, Tiger Lily?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%27s_Up,_Tiger_Lily%3F)_ (1966). The _Double Take_ concept is similar to the Los Angeles-based club show (later transferred to TV) _[Mad Movies with the L.A. Connection](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Movies_with_the_L.A._Connection)_ , which was popular in the USA in the 1970s and 1980s, and the long-running Dynasty Dub series found on YouTube

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-mst3k-type-shows-are-there/912669/14 "2020-06-25T08:06:21Z")

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I was thinking of the sections where RLM film themselves watching movies.

Also, their commentary tracks are mostly available free on their Bandcamp page: [Audio | Red Letter Media](https://redlettermedia.bandcamp.com/audio)

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-mst3k-type-shows-are-there/912669/15 "2020-06-25T16:14:07Z")

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I dimly recall a short-lived reality TV show several years back, where each episode brought us into several households of everyday people, watching them watch other reality TV shows. i.e…here’s a TV show that consists of video of me watching Survivor. Very meta. Can’t recall the name.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-mst3k-type-shows-are-there/912669/16 "2020-06-27T02:27:16Z")

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One of the “games” that they occasionally play on Whose Line Is It Anyway called ‘Film Dub’ follows the same structure as MST3K, albeit in 60 - 90 second snippets.

Not sure how much that fits with what you’re looking for, but here’s an example I found by searching “Whose Line Film Dub” on youtube.

[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HQG1ezZlY4c](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HQG1ezZlY4c)

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-mst3k-type-shows-are-there/912669/17 "2020-06-27T03:37:14Z")

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An MST3K type show doesn’t dub-comments about the movie and additional dialog only.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-mst3k-type-shows-are-there/912669/18 "2020-06-27T15:26:54Z")

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VCR Party is sort of this thing. Example: [VCR Party Live! Episode 35 - Steve Young & Industrial Musicals - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh9lTHAAPf4)

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-mst3k-type-shows-are-there/912669/19 "2020-06-27T15:46:31Z")

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VCR Party is a very good example.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-mst3k-type-shows-are-there/912669/20 "2020-06-27T17:04:13Z")

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> [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](#):
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> There used to be a show called _Mad Movies_ which was a little different in that they replaced movie soundtracks with funny dialogue.

Woody Allen did this with his first film, _What’s Up, Tiger Lily?_
