# How many of the Kids in the Hall are gay?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-of-the-kids-in-the-hall-are-gay/220976>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 25, 2003, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-of-the-kids-in-the-hall-are-gay/220976 "2003-12-25T05:42:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2003, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-of-the-kids-in-the-hall-are-gay/220976/41 "2003-12-27T07:15:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Sampiro \*  
> **You mean you thought it was just coincidence that at the time of his death he was behind the controls of a two seater European import over San Francisco? He-llloooo!**

You’re about a hundred miles and three counties off. He departed from the Monterey Peninsula Airport and crashed into the Pacific Ocean nearby off Pacific Grove.

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2003, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-of-the-kids-in-the-hall-are-gay/220976/42 "2003-12-27T07:20:35Z")

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And his plane was not a European import. It was made by Adrian Davis in Texas, from plans by California’s Rutan Aircraft Factory.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2003, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-of-the-kids-in-the-hall-are-gay/220976/43 "2003-12-27T12:19:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Walloon \*  
> **It was made by Adrian Davis in Texas**

Who you may notice is **male**.

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2003, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-of-the-kids-in-the-hall-are-gay/220976/44 "2003-12-30T00:09:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tangent \*  
> \*\*Huh? Scott Thompson wasn’t in _Dreamcatcher_. Is this a whoosh? 😕 \*\*

No, he wasn’t in that movie, but I saw him on Late Night maybe a year ago. He was describing the opening to his one-man show…

“It starts with me masturbating into a sock, or as I call it, my dreamcatcher.”

He goes on to describe how it starts talking to him and stuff like that. Still cracks me up.

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**Author:** ![TeaElle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@TeaElle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeaElle)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2003, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-of-the-kids-in-the-hall-are-gay/220976/45 "2003-12-30T01:13:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Survivor \*  
> \*\*It may not matter to you if so and so is Gay, but I sure wish that Gay actors and others in the public eye would come out… \*\*

I’ll take you one further – my wish would be that no one had to be in or out or make public statements about their sexuality because it didn’t make a damned difference anymore. I fully understand the desire for role models, I agree that the more out people there are in general, but especially in the public eye, the better.

But being out is a highly personal decision and issue right now, because there is still a big, vocal and scary portion of our society that cannot handle it. We all know that. Therefore, I cannot get behind the idea of outing celebrities _or_ the “is X gay, because he did that thing and I think that makes him gay” discussion (which is what was put forth by the OP) which has a disturbing tendency to devolve into generalizations, stereotypes and a lot of comments which have a thinly veiled tenor of homophobia.

It’s one thing if it’s a question that’s asked, answered and left alone: “Is X person gay?” “No.” “Thank you.” It’s a very different, distressing and disgusting (IMO) thing when it turns into a matter of discussion. “Are you sure, because (insert silly stereotype here).” “He’s married.” “So?” “Hey, he also (insert professional, not personal activity here).” “He’s married. Besides that, he’s a gay friendly person, if he were gay why wouldn’t he be out?” “Well, I think he’s gay because (insert rumormongering here).”

That’s where my complaint comes from. Look at this thread. Derogatory language came in post #3. Suppositions based on “impressions” came in post #4. By the ninth post in – after a definitive answer to the initial, simple yes/no question was given more than once – we got the canard that dressing in drag as a _performer_ makes one suspect. It’s nearly 2004 and people are still throwing crap like that out into a serious discussion about real people.

Yes, we need to have more out, gay entertainers and CEOs and teachers and congresspeople, by a factor of ten. But we’re never going to get to a point in our society where that will happen so long as we have people who are so happy to trade in the kind of ignorant jawflapping as has been demonstrated by certain posters in this thread.

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