# How Many People did Kwai Chang Caine kill in Kung Fu?

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**Created:** [September 11, 2023, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-kwai-chang-caine-kill-in-kung-fu/989905 "2023-09-11T00:37:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ynnad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4491bb/32.png) [@Ynnad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ynnad)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-kwai-chang-caine-kill-in-kung-fu/989905/1 "2023-09-11T00:37:49Z")

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In the 1972 to 1975 television series _Kung Fu_, how many people did Kwai Chang Caine kill? Of course there was the emperor’s nephew. Were there any others?

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-kwai-chang-caine-kill-in-kung-fu/989905/2 "2023-09-11T00:59:19Z")

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He kills the Shaolin priest bounty hunter who comes after him.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoUcvl8VXk4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoUcvl8VXk4)

There were maybe more bounty hunters in later episodes too? There are certainly more fight scenes (on the U.S. side) against other people with martial arts skillz sent to get him.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-kwai-chang-caine-kill-in-kung-fu/989905/3 "2023-09-11T01:12:09Z")

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He … did not wish … to make trouble.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-kwai-chang-caine-kill-in-kung-fu/989905/4 "2023-09-11T01:29:22Z")

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Although Caine didn’t kill him directly, things went very badly for a sorcerer when the demon he summoned couldn’t penetrate Caine’s serenity and turned back against the sorcerer. [https://youtu.be/mzSAf64-GNk?t=149](https://youtu.be/mzSAf64-GNk?t=149)

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**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-kwai-chang-caine-kill-in-kung-fu/989905/5 "2023-09-11T01:36:37Z")

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Everybody was Kung Fu fighting. I think Kwai Chang had an onion belt in kung fu, because that was the style at the time.

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-kwai-chang-caine-kill-in-kung-fu/989905/6 "2023-09-11T02:37:25Z")

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NeverMind

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**Author:** ![epbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@epbrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-kwai-chang-caine-kill-in-kung-fu/989905/7 "2023-09-12T03:11:23Z")

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In the 2-hour pilot that ends with his killing of the other monk, he disappears into the desert around the track crew. They send about a half-dozen people to capture him over a few days, after which we always see their rider-less horses return. Much is made of the fact that Caine should have died out there without food or water, and when they finally make him return by threatening to kill an innocent, he shows up alone.

Those six guys _have_ to be dead, and that’s the pilot having a 7-man bodycount.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-kwai-chang-caine-kill-in-kung-fu/989905/8 "2023-09-12T12:56:23Z")

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> [@epbrown](#):
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> Those six guys _have_ to be dead, and that’s the pilot having a 7-man bodycount.

Are we supposed to believe Kwai Chang killed them though? Didn’t they just die in the incredibly harsh conditions that would kill any ordinary hired gun? Meh, maybe he did if they attacked him first ninja style.

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**Author:** ![Ynnad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4491bb/32.png) [@Ynnad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ynnad)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-kwai-chang-caine-kill-in-kung-fu/989905/9 "2023-09-12T13:32:47Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Didn’t they just die in the incredibly harsh conditions that would kill any ordinary hired gun?

Then why didn’t the horses succumb to the incredibly harsh conditions?

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-kwai-chang-caine-kill-in-kung-fu/989905/10 "2023-09-12T13:55:04Z")

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First, for theatric effect. But I realized the contradiction and mentioned they might have attacked him ninja style leaving him with no choice but to kill each of them. However, it’s possible he just used non-violent means and convinced them to form a circular firing squad and then he ducked at the last moment.

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**Author:** ![epbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@epbrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-kwai-chang-caine-kill-in-kung-fu/989905/11 "2023-09-12T22:20:31Z")

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Even if Caine didn’t kill them directly, he knocked them off their horses and disarmed them, leaving them stranded in the desert without the supplies in their saddlebags or weapons. That orchestrated their deaths, deliberately, even if he followed the rules of the temple (disarm rather than hurt, hurt rather than kill, etc.)

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-kwai-chang-caine-kill-in-kung-fu/989905/12 "2023-09-12T23:13:02Z")

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> [@epbrown](#):
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> That orchestrated their deaths, deliberately, even if he followed the rules of the temple

I won’t kill you… but I don’t have to save you.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-kwai-chang-caine-kill-in-kung-fu/989905/13 "2023-09-13T00:13:56Z")

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Very good, Grasshopper. You have learned The Way.
