# How many people did Scott Peterson kill? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 31, 2010, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676 "2010-07-31T13:23:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676/101 "2010-12-08T17:59:22Z")
I voted two, Laci and Conor. My reasoning is because I believe that one of Scotts main reasons for the murder were directly related to Conor. It’s probably not logical on my part. Much more an emotional response. ---
**Author:** ![A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Voice_of_Sanity)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676/102 "2010-12-08T18:27:22Z")
> [@Raginghormonal](#): > > It’s probably not logical on my part. Much more an emotional response. It isn’t logical at all. Logic shows that Scott Peterson was nowhere close when his child died, and weeks later later when his wife died. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676/103 "2010-12-08T18:37:12Z")
I must have missed the part where it was explained that they died weeks apart. Where is this evidence to be found? ---
**Author:** ![A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Voice_of_Sanity)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2010, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676/104 "2010-12-09T03:10:41Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > I must have missed the part where it was explained that they died weeks apart. > > Where is this evidence to be found? In the trial transcript. ---
**Author:** ![not\_alice](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_alice/32/7283_2.png) [@not\_alice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_alice)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2010, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676/105 "2010-12-09T03:19:33Z")
> [@Shampoo labels in French?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shampoo-labels-in-french/63027/2): > > abortion is not performed at 8 months. . It is sometimes, and it would be more often if, well, if doctors that perform that procedure would just stop getting their heads and hearts in the way of bullets flying around their churches! ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2010, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676/106 "2010-12-09T12:54:14Z")
> [@A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](#): > > It isn’t logical at all. Logic shows that Scott Peterson was nowhere close when his child died, and weeks later later when his wife died. I said my reasoning probably wasn’t logical, but not for the silly reason you claim. That defense didn’t work at the trial and it doesn’t work now. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2010, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676/107 "2010-12-09T14:18:01Z")
> [@A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](#): > > It was one of her other bed partners who told her that. His wife is fine. As for lying, she was collecting child support from one man for another man’s illegitimate child. That pretty much covers that. > It’s Frey and it’s mostly the Rocha clan who hate Frey for “her” book. And don’t forget it was the Rocha gang who smashed in Scott’s front door and looted his property with three trucks. It was Grantski who told the police to suspect Scott for doing what he, Grantski, was doing that day. Cite? > [@A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](#): > > Here ‘reasons’ make me think she was insane or drunk when she conjured up this nonsense. They are all seriously demented ideas. Cite? Bird made the list at the advice of her therapist. Please show me where her therapist said she was “insane or drunk.” Are you a relative of Peterson’s? If all that evidence was presented at trial, how could he possibly be found guilty? ---
**Author:** ![A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Voice_of_Sanity)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2010, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676/108 "2010-12-09T14:53:55Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Cite? Bird made the list at the advice of her therapist. Please show me where her therapist said she was “insane or drunk.” Yeah, right. She needs a therapist. Anne Bird’s idiot thoughts. 1. On our last day at Disneyland, when Ryan went missing and everyone panicked, Scott stayed on his cell in his own world. Total disconnect. When I see too many people running in circles I wait to see what NEEDS to be done. There is no point in adding to the insanity. 1. While at Tommy’s christening on January 12, 2003, Scott sat and held Tommy entire time and looked uncomfortable. Rector seemed to get bad feeling about Scott, like he knew something or wasn’t buying it. Perhaps the baby needed changing? 1. Scott upgraded his porn channel later that day. Porn = sports today. Means nothing. 1. In interviews with Gloria Gomez and Diane Sawyer, Scott said Laci knew about Amber. No way she knew he was having an affair! No way she would have put up with it. She had done more than once before. What goes on behind closed doors often stays there. 1. On Ryan’s third birthday, Scott stayed with us. He had just returned from his PO. box in Modesto and had hate mail with him. There was a praying mantis on one, and another had a birthday cake picture with three candles and it said “Happy Birthday Ryan.” This made me scared, and I do not know where it came from or how anyone else would know about Ryan’s birthday. Also, there was a let- ter ‘the one he thought was from the Rocha family’ that was definitely a death threat. He seemed to be able to joke about it. After the first 2 or 3 hundred you get blasé. 1. Scott partying, celebrating while Laci is missing. A lot of “carrying on” the entire time I was with him. Some men cry in private. 1. When he was at our house and the news came on, he watched and asked if he should get rid of his goatee. Did not seem to recognize how serious it was that he was a “person of interest.” What could he do? If the MPD set out to frame him how could he stop it? 1. Flirting with our babysitter. Made “fiirtinis.” Babysitter felt uncomfortable and left. Or was the babysitter flirting with him? 1. Jackie and Lee telling me that if asked about babysitter in- cident, I should just deny it or “not recall” it, suggesting to me that they didn’t want anybody opening that can of worms. That’s Jackie and Lee and not Scott. 1. The girl he got pregnant in Arizona - was this the reason he left college? The girl had an abortion; then Scott came home. And the relationship to murder is …? 1. Scott often arrived in different cars. Was he switching cars to avoid being followed? He didn’t own a cloak of invisibility. What else could he do? 1. Scott borrowing the shovel up at Lake Arrowhead. He said, “I have a shovel I borrowed that I need to return.” Is it pos- sible he buried something? That’s why most people use a shovel. Point? 1. Scott did not have money, according to Jackie. Yet he pur- chased items from REI and North Face outlets while here. Point? 1. Appeared uninterested in search for Laci. I brought up several ideas/leads (from the news), but he had no direc- tion/interest in them. I asked if there was anywhere anyone should be looking and brought out map of Modesto. He pointed to Mape’s Ranch (?) like he was very annoyed with me. “Maybe there,” he said. No. He’d searched everywhere he could. He didn’t want to DISCUSS it. 1. I saw the table setting from the People magazine photo- graph and it looks like Scott set the table for Christmas Eve dinner. I have set a table with Laci at a Latham family re- union, and she sets the table correctly. The Christmas “crackers” are a finishing touch-not the only thing you put on a table. There is also no tablecloth and it looks ab- solutely not up to Laci’s high standards of table setting (something she excelled at). Point? 1. When I asked about his (new) hair color he said that it was bleached in the swimming pool up in Mammoth when he was there skiing. He bleached it lighter. The chlorine turned it orange. Well known occurrence. 1. Scott used alias Cal, short for California, a name he said that he and Laci originally chose for Conner - to look at apartments for rent so that he didn’t have to give his name. But that wasn’t the name I heard (they wanted). Point? He should have used Conner? 1. He left our house two to three times to go to Modesto to clean the pool and mow the lawn. He said he did not want the neighbors seeing the pool turning green. Did anyone check the pool for any evidence? He wanted to keep Laci’s house the way she liked it. 1. Chilling story about the overgrown cemetery in Mendocino. Made up? Possibly. On verge of confessing? Looked like it. Possibly just a story that happened. Do you drink much? 1. Two [of Scott’s] cousins said he was investigated in connec- tion with the disappearance of Kristin Smart, the girl from SLO (missing since 1996). And immediately excluded. 1. Cousins said somebody must have been helping Scott flee if there was all the stuff in the back of the car. Cousins have an overactive imagination. The ‘stuff’ was random junk. 1. Scott tried to get help removing GPS device from truck. Very annoyed to be tracked at all. Unless he was served with a court order he had every right to be annoyed. 1. Despite what Jackie said on television about Scott and Laci’s “perfect marriage,” on three separate occasions (be- fore Laci disappeared) she told me Scott and Laci were hav- ing problems. That’s Jackie not Scott. 1. Scott claimed he’d had a delusion of speaking into the mir- ror at their house with Laci. He said this after I told him I had seen Sharon Rocha on the news saying she saw Laci on their couch. [Such visions] are apparently brought on by “extreme grief” or “extreme guilt.” Point? 1. Scott told me that he had another affair before Amber Frey, someone in SLO, and did not give a time when that one oc- curred. Also, had slept with someone (or two?) on an air- plane flight. On that flight he said he “took turns” between two airplane bathrooms. I have no idea when this occurred and did not ask any other details. And this means … ? 1. In L.A., gay relatives took Scott barhopping, went to a gay bar. Scott said he was bummed that no one hit on him. Do you drink much? 1. Every time there was a search in the bay, Scott’s voice and reaction was more heightened, and he would say things like “They are wasting their time when they could be out look- ing for her,” “Time would be better spent looking for her somewhere else.” He was louder and more emotional when they were looking in the bay. He was AT the bay when she was abducted. He knew she wasn’t there. 1. Drinks at the Ballast. At the bar, Scott pulled Mexican pesos from his pocket. When [Gordo] asked if he was going to Mexico sometime soon, Scott didn’t respond. He’d just returned. 1. Dinner at the SD Yacht Club with some of my friends. At 9:00 P.M. I told Scott that we had to get going, and he said that it was ridiculous-“Who cares?” I called home and said we would be late; kept getting “Who cares?” attitude from Scott, and finally said we had to leave about 10:30 or 11:00 P.M. Point? 1. I was the first to call and let him know they found a body of a woman in the bay. He said “They’ll find out it’s not Laci, and they will keep looking for her.” He was AT the bay when she was abducted. He knew she wasn’t there. 1. When I said they’d found the body of a baby the day before, he said “What?! . . . That’s terrible. Who would do such a thing?!” Seemed very disturbed and voice was loud and emotional again. Murdering a baby IS disgusting. 1. On April 17, 2003 Scott stayed at my parents’ house in San Diego. When I asked him why he didn’t go to the Lake Ar- rowhead house he said his car spun out. I don’t believe he ever went there. I think he went straight to my parents’ be- cause he thought the police knew about the Lake Arrow- head house. Point? 1. On last prison visit to Redwood, Scott waited till end of visit and said: “You know I didn’t kill my wife.” Couldn’t look me in the eye, then checked for my reaction. I wonder if Jesus looked Judas in the eye? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is the best she can do? This list tells us much more about Bird and her problems than it does about Scott. ---
**Author:** ![A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Voice_of_Sanity)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676/109 "2010-12-09T14:57:55Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Are you a relative of Peterson’s? No. Don’t know any of them. > [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > If all that evidence was presented at trial, how could he possibly be found guilty? Because the “jury” ignored the trial and “judged” Scott based on what they heard on TV. In the trial, he was proved not guilty as the prosecutor admitted. On TV he was guilty, guilty, guilty all the way and there was no thought that he might be innocent. I hope they all burn in hell for their betrayal. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2010, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676/110 "2010-12-09T15:28:57Z")
> [@A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](#): > > No. Don’t know any of them. > > Because the “jury” ignored the trial and “judged” Scott based on what they heard on TV. In the trial, he was proved not guilty as the prosecutor admitted. On TV he was guilty, guilty, guilty all the way and there was no thought that he might be innocent. I hope they all burn in hell for their betrayal. You’re missing a couple of letters from your user name. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676/111 "2010-12-10T02:13:06Z")
> [@A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](#): > > No. Don’t know any of them. > > Because the “jury” ignored the trial and “judged” Scott based on what they heard on TV. In the trial, he was proved not guilty as the prosecutor admitted. On TV he was guilty, guilty, guilty all the way and there was no thought that he might be innocent. I hope they all burn in hell for their betrayal. > [@Leaffan](#): > > You’re missing a couple of letters from your user name. MOderator Note **Leaffan** –You’ve been around long enough to know you attackt the post, not the poster. No warning issued. **samclem** MOderator ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676/112 "2010-12-13T15:04:12Z")
**Vpocepf Sanity** –You are saying that a woman went to the trouble of kidnapping pregant Laci, cutting the baby out of her, and then _threw the baby away_?! Why would anyone just toss the child aside like a piece of garbage? ---
**Author:** ![A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Voice_of_Sanity)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676/113 "2010-12-13T23:45:09Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > **Vpocepf Sanity** –You are saying that a woman went to the trouble of kidnapping pregant Laci, cutting the baby out of her, and then _threw the baby away_?! Why would anyone just toss the child aside like a piece of garbage? Of course not. What a very silly idea. Either he was already dead or he died during or shortly after the amateur cesarean. Here’s a list of cases: [Fetal Abductions](http://sites.google.com/site/another9912/fetalandnewbornabductions) The children of Margarita Flores, Kathaleena Draper, Carolyn Simpson, Jimella Tunstall, Heather Megan Snively and Mrs Lee (in Hong Kong) all died as did Conner. Why do you think Conner was laid on the shore? It was because this woman thought of him as _ **‘her’** _ child and wanted him to get a proper burial, not be tossed away. If he’d ever gone into the sea he would never have been found. Only because he was laid there, where she probably thought the police were still looking, was the family able to bury him. Laci she didn’t care about so her remains were tossed off the shore where it was thought they would vanish. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676/114 "2010-12-16T16:24:26Z")
Laying a baby on the shore is _a proper burial_??? It is not even a burial, much less proper! When wais the funeral and where is the headstone? I suppose you believe a black man hijacked Charles Stuart’s car and killed his pregnant wife because he wanted a white baby, and drug dealers killed Nicole & Ron. ---
**Author:** ![A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Voice_of_Sanity)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676/115 "2010-12-17T06:42:41Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > I suppose you believe a black man hijacked Charles Stuart’s car and killed his pregnant wife because he wanted a white baby, and drug dealers killed Nicole & Ron. I can do without the insults. > [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Laying a baby on the shore is _a proper burial_??? It is not even a burial, much less proper! When wais the funeral and where is the headstone? This was the funeral, held August 31, 2003: **Laci Peterson And Son Finally Laid To Rest August 31, 2003** ESCALON, Calif. – The bodies of Laci and Conner Peterson were buried together Friday in a small-town Central Valley cemetery, eight months aftertheir disappearance from Modesto set off an intensive search that ended in April when their bodies surfaced in San Francisco Bay. About 250 family members and friends attended the 30-minute service at quiet Burwood Cemetery, releasing first a pair of doves, then 20 more that circled twice above the grounds and flew northinto a bright blue sky. “The two were Laci and Conner. The rest were angels sent to help follow them to heaven,” said Peterson’s stepfather, Ron Grantski, at the service attended by a reporter from The Modesto Bee. Here is the headstone: [http://www3.findagrave.com/photos250/photos/2007/29/7357179\_117017367545.jpg](http://www3.findagrave.com/photos250/photos/2007/29/7357179_117017367545.jpg) Feel silly now? Once more you prove me right. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676/116 "2010-12-17T18:45:38Z")
> [@A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](#): > > [Quote=Annie-Xmas] > Are you a relative of Peterson’s? No. Don’t know any of them. [/QUOTE] Shenanigans. ---
**Author:** ![A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Voice_of_Sanity)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676/117 "2010-12-18T02:10:01Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Shenanigans. 😕 Point? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676/118 "2010-12-20T00:00:14Z")
> [@A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](#): > > 😕 Point? Point is, that statement isn’t credible. You show up on multiple websites as an apologist for Scott Peterson, and have a blog (or at least a blog named after you) intended to champion his innocence. You’re either a family member, someone closely acquainted with the Petersens, or Scott Peterson himself. ---
**Author:** ![A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@A\_Voice\_of\_Sanity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Voice_of_Sanity)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676/119 "2010-12-20T07:13:02Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Point is, that statement isn’t credible. You show up on multiple websites as an apologist for Scott Peterson, and have a blog (or at least a blog named after you) intended to champion his innocence. You’re either a family member, someone closely acquainted with the Petersens, or Scott Peterson himself. You are calling me a liar. I am not a liar. This is libel. I have never met, nor communicated, with Scott or any of his family members. Why can’t you argue **FACTS**? Or be honest enough to admit that you hate him based on nothing but prejudice? I’ve argued facts and the facts are overwhelming. He is clearly innocent. Instead you attack me and libel me. Shame on you. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676/120 "2010-12-20T12:29:35Z")
**Vinyl Turnip** , you have made your claim. Regardless of whatever motivation **A Voice of Sanity** may have, they are irrelevant to a discussion of the actual events. Now drop it. [/Moderating] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-did-scott-peterson-kill/548676.md?page=7)