# How many people is Trump trying to kill with inane suggestions? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 24, 2020, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480 "2020-04-24T02:54:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480/101 "2020-04-28T00:02:55Z")
> [@Anny\_Middon](#): > > I think that the next time at a press conference he says something as harmful and stupid as the inject bleach thing, the entire group ought to start laughing. I think Trump is done with press conferences at this point. When he admitted that he purposely spoke falsely, he lost his war with the press. He handed them a pretext to pin down his meaning by asking “is this sarcastic like the bleach thing, or do you really mean it?” He can’t operate in an environment where his statements can be pinned down, so I think we’re going to see him stick to very safe statements in very safe environments from here on out. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480/102 "2020-04-28T02:27:29Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > He can’t operate in an environment where his statements can be pinned down, . . . Yes, he can, because ultimately all he wants is just to pander to the suckers who won’t pin him down anyway. The other people–who might pin him down–are more a distraction. The “briefings” are just substitute rallies. He tolerates the scientists and the reporters because they have to be there to make it a “briefing.” ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480/103 "2020-04-28T07:24:34Z")
In a post a day or so ago in one of these Trump-bashing threads (sorry, I can’t find it right now), somebody (was it **ThelmaLou**?) predicted that it would be at most 48 hours before somebody dies from ingesting disinfectant. Has anybody seen any news of that actually happening? (We know it happened with the hydroxychloroquine.) We’ve seen the news that public agencies in several states have been swamped with calls about it. I’ve seen in some articles that among the many people asking about it, there was also many calls regarding people having actual “contact” with disinfectants, whatever that means, but nobody actually hospitalized or died. Has anybody here actually heard of anything more serious happening yet? ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480/104 "2020-04-28T12:22:59Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Has anybody here actually heard of anything more serious happening yet? I have seen anecdotal reports suggesting an uptick in cases of ingestion of household cleaning products. But some small number of people are ALWAYS drinking bleach and lysol. I accidentally drank bleach myself one time (protip - don’t drink bleach, the negatives far outweigh the positives). Point being, you’ll find bleach-drinking news stories from last month, and you’ll find the same number of stories next month. We’ll never really be certain how much to blame Trump until someone does a proper scientific study. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480/105 "2020-04-28T12:46:25Z")
“No Responsibility” Trump > **[Trump Says He Takes No Responsibility For People Ingesting Disinfectant](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-no-responsibility-disinfectant-use_n_5ea75b7dc5b6a30004e6e509)** > > The president said he "can't imagine" people are ingesting disinfectant to treat COVID-19 because of his comments last week. > [@](#): > > **Trump Says He Takes No Responsibility For People Ingesting Disinfectant** > > President Donald Trump said Monday that he is not taking any responsibility for the reported spike in people seeking help related to unsafe disinfectant use, even though he floated the idea of using disinfectant as a potential COVID-19 cure last week. > Trump denied that his comments had played any role in those reports at his Monday briefing, the first time he’d taken questions at a press conference since his remarks about injecting people with disinfectant and sunlight faced nearly universal condemnation. Trump later claimed that suggestion was sarcastic. > “I can’t imagine why,” Trump said Monday when a journalist noted a reported rise in the misuse of disinfectant since then. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480/106 "2020-04-28T12:49:21Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Has anybody here actually heard of anything more serious happening yet? No in actual ingestion, but there’s this: > **[Governors Report Influx Of Calls About Disinfectant After Trump Treatment...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/governors-maryland-michigan-disinfectant-coronavirus_n_5ea5ab9ac5b6f9639816c0c8)** > > The governors of Michigan and Maryland said the president needs to ensure the information he's sharing is based on science. > [@](#): > > **Governors Report Influx Of Calls About Disinfectant After Trump Treatment Suggestion** > > Multiple governors appeared on news shows on Sunday morning to report that their states have seen an increase in calls concerning President Donald Trump’s recent suggestion that patients be injected with disinfectant to cure COVID-19. > During a press conference on Thursday, Trump asked senior health officials to explore disinfectant-related treatments for coronavirus, “almost like a cleaning.” Trump’s request followed an announcement from Department of Homeland Security official Bill Bryan that some studies have shown the virus does not survive well on surfaces ― like countertops and refrigerators ― and in the air when hit with ultraviolet rays or disinfectant. > In response to Trump’s public suggestion, the manufacturer of Lysol and Dettol issued a statement saying, “Under no circumstance should our disinfectant products be administered into the human body through injection, ingestion or any other route.” > On Sunday, Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) said on ABC’s “This Week” that his office has received “hundred of calls” seeking guidance on Trump’s suggestion, and added the president “needs to make sure these press conferences are fact-based.” And this: > **[NYC Poison Control Calls for Bleach, Lysol Double After Trump Disinfectant...](https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nyc-poison-control-calls-for-bleach-lysol-double-after-trump-disinfectant-comment/2389593/)** > > Calls to New York City’s Poison Control Center for exposure to certain household chemicals more than doubled after President Donald Trump suggested injecting disinfectant might be one way to combat COVID-19, the city said Saturday. In the 18 hours... > [@](#): > > Calls to New York City’s Poison Control Center for exposure to certain household chemicals more than doubled after President Donald Trump suggested injecting disinfectant might be one way to combat COVID-19, the city said Saturday. > > In the 18 hours after the president’s suggestion during a Thursday night news conference, the city center got 30 exposure calls – nine specifically about Lysol, 10 about bleach and 11 about other household cleaners. > > In the same window last year, there were 13 cases – two specifically about bleach and none of them about Lysol-related products. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480/107 "2020-04-28T12:55:56Z")
> [@burrunderthe\_saddle](#): > > … Trump is merely suggesting alternative treatments that should be considered by researchers and is not trying to kill people. Trump is just thinking outside of the box. This defense could have worked for 24 hours. Trump is a genius thinking outside the box; even if his suggested remedies don’t work they may inspire researchers not as busy as Trump to come up with good ideas. This is the genius with a very big you-know-what doing what he does best. Sure, the suggestion is still stupid, but not so much as to be obviously stupid to one of Trump’s fellow morons. But then 24 hours later Trump goes off the rails. He tells us the entire speech was a “sarcastic prank” to get back at reporters who were asking him mean questions. There goes the “stable genius” defense. Even morons can’t believe that sarcastic pranks are what we want from President now, can they? Only [imbeciles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imbecile) could support the man now. (And idiots I suppose — are idiots allowed to vote?) Yet the oaf still has widespread support; America is sustaining a severe reverse-Flynn effect. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480/108 "2020-04-28T12:56:38Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Has anybody here actually heard of anything more serious happening yet? [Kansas official says man drank cleaner after Trump floated dangerous disinfectant remedy](https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article242326966.html) ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480/109 "2020-04-28T13:05:24Z")
I find my belief in the intelligence of the average American has gone up a bit since most people are calling the poison centers \*before \*they drink/ingest the bleach. And yeah, it should be a no-brainer but it should also be a no-brainer that if POTUS says something on national TV, you can assume it is good advice. I’m guessing that the immediate shit-storm caused by the Fake Media accurately reporting how dumb this was had some affect on people checking before swigging. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480/110 "2020-04-28T13:19:49Z")
I have some confidence that our great leader does not intend to kill anyone although he certainly doesn’t care if he does. What he intends is to create a triumphant narrative for himself. He does this, has always done this, by spewing out a bizarre stream of consciousness rant with the idea that something positive will stick, and everything else he will just deny he said. It absolutely works with his true believers. They will invariably point to the few sane things he has said or done and mysteriously manage to elide the 99% garbage. What he intends is for one of these random blatherings to be enough on the mark that he can claim it was his idea all along, that he saved everyone through his genius. Collateral damage is meaningless in trumpworld. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480/111 "2020-04-28T14:33:24Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > What he intends is for one of these random blatherings to be enough on the mark that he can claim it was his idea all along, that he saved everyone through his genius. Kind of like the psychics in the supermarket tabloids? ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480/112 "2020-04-28T15:05:47Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > Kind of like the psychics in the supermarket tabloids? Well there’s a kinship. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480/113 "2020-04-28T15:36:33Z")
I think this is a good place to share the following [Trump Propaganda Posters](https://i.imgur.com/LXVPEtc.png). Single image, well worth the click. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480/114 "2020-04-28T18:23:07Z")
> **[Trump Lysol Juul - Coronavirus Meme - Shut Up And Take My Money](http://shutupandtakemymoney.com/trump-lysol-juul-coronavirus-meme/)** > > Trump Lysol Juul - Coronavirus Meme Personal favorite. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480/115 "2020-04-28T18:34:29Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > What he intends is for one of these random blatherings to be enough on the mark that he can claim it was his idea all along,. . . I don’t think he even has that much foresight. He just says things in the moment that he thinks will put up a bullshit triumphant narrative to his mindless base. Later on, he’ll take credit for something he didn’t do if it’s in the news, whether he talked about it before or not. He just pulls things out of his ass in the moment. In the rallies, he does the same thing, and then uses their response as a way to see what works. It’s not even so much a strategy as a behavior which his reptilian brain has evolved to use. In these “briefings” he can’t do that, though, so he throws a tantrum and tweets “fake news” when his bullshit is called out. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480/116 "2020-04-29T15:02:08Z")
> [@](#): > > “Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous force, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light,” he said earlier this month. Just read this in a Huffington Post entry today, and my first thought was “Yeah, there’s definitely a body I’d like to hit ‘with tremendous force’ and see what would happen.” ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480/117 "2020-04-29T15:36:57Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Wait. I just drank a quart of bleach. Do I need to be concerned now? Depends. If it was straight from the bottle, yes. But if it was homeopathic with a high alcohol content, you’ll be fine. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480/118 "2020-04-29T15:57:37Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Depends. If it was straight from the bottle, yes. But if it was homeopathic with a high alcohol content, you’ll be fine. If you drank a quart of bleach at homeopathic concentrations, you’d be dead even if it was only diluted with water rather than alcohol. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480/119 "2020-04-29T17:41:12Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > If you drank a quart of bleach at homeopathic concentrations, you’d be dead even if it was only diluted with water rather than alcohol. Wouldn’t it be a drop of bleach shaken in a quart of water, a drop of that shaken in a quart of water? ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480/120 "2020-04-29T18:26:50Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Wouldn’t it be a drop of bleach shaken in a quart of water, a drop of that shaken in a quart of water? Depends on how sick the patient is. If on his last legs,[they might dilute it two or three more times](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-people-is-trump-trying-to-kill-with-inane-suggestions/852480.md?page=7)