# How Many states before SC Forced To Rule on SSM?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 20, 2014, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-states-before-sc-forced-to-rule-on-ssm/688820 "2014-05-20T12:27:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![David42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@David42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David42)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-states-before-sc-forced-to-rule-on-ssm/688820/261 "2014-06-05T20:42:06Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> A lot of the bickering was brought on by your tone and by your misunderstanding of my posts.

I could say the same that you misunderstand my posts and even that you started it, but it is more important that I am now apologizing for any of my tone that was wrongful, if so. You must forget that the written word alone is a handicap and you might be supplying “tone” I did not intend. I wish you to also apologize and get past the problem.

But my complaints are not ill-informed, and are not indicative of bias. I happen top believe that a lot of public support is grounded in some popular misconceptions about the 14th amendment that the SSM promoters have made very muddy, and that what a lot of people have support for is not SSM per se but for the 14th amendment (although working it incorrectly) and the American way of doing things. In other words, why they have support is debatable, and I see a likelihood that support might be mistaken due to “proganda”–misleading or false information put forth to the public. The idea that the fourteenth amendment creates substantive rights is believed by many.

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**Author:** ![David42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@David42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David42)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-states-before-sc-forced-to-rule-on-ssm/688820/262 "2014-06-05T20:44:17Z")

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Can anyone tell me which is the last of the 14 district court decisions? it might discuss several of the others and be a bit of a shortcut to getting to the bottom of this.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2014, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-states-before-sc-forced-to-rule-on-ssm/688820/263 "2014-06-06T22:03:03Z")

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Here’s a fresh state court ruling: [Wisconsin’s ban on same-sex marriage was just tossed.](http://media.jrn.com/documents/gaymarriageruling.pdf)

> [@Judge Barbara Crabb](#):
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> Having reviewed the parties’ and amici’s filings, I am granting plaintiffs’ motion for summary judgment and denying defendants’ motion to dismiss because I conclude that the Wisconsin laws prohibiting marriage between same-sex couples interfere with plaintiffs’ right to marry, in violation of the due process clause, and discriminate against plaintiffs on the basis of sexual orientation, in violation of the equal protection clause.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-states-before-sc-forced-to-rule-on-ssm/688820/264 "2014-06-11T14:48:31Z")

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I wonder if no state wants to ban it and be the state that takes it to the federal level. Because everyone knows that the Supreme Court will approve it. And that will be the end of America as the gays take us into total destruction (OK, only really idiotic bigots believe the last part)

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-states-before-sc-forced-to-rule-on-ssm/688820/265 "2014-06-11T15:31:20Z")

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You mean appeal it to the federal circuits? A lot of states _are_ doing that. At least as many as have rolled over and accepted adverse rulings.

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