# How many States can disqualify Trump before his campaign can't win?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-states-can-disqualify-trump-before-his-campaign-cant-win/995316>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [December 29, 2023, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-states-can-disqualify-trump-before-his-campaign-cant-win/995316 "2023-12-29T15:38:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-states-can-disqualify-trump-before-his-campaign-cant-win/995316/121 "2024-01-04T17:17:32Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> State rights end when the Feds have an enumerated power like that. And SCOTUS will punt saying they do not have the power to enforce a non-existent law. It is up to Congress.

Not if it’s self-executing. There have already been candidates who were not permitted to run because of the 14A restriction, and Congress didn’t lift a finger to intervene one way or another. None of the impacted candidates’ appeals withstood higher court review.

And this enforcement clause applies to the entire 14th amendment, correct? I’m quite certain SCOTUS doesn’t check with Congress first when ruling on 14th amendment matters.

Many thanks to @Northern_Piper for the light shed on this.

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**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-states-can-disqualify-trump-before-his-campaign-cant-win/995316/122 "2024-01-04T23:31:10Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Why did someone vote under my name a couple decades ago? I have no clue but it did happen. I’m not claiming all 11-12 million illegal residents are doing it, but the number is not 0.

It could have been deliberate voter fraud, It could have been a simple error, someone with the same name say.

But you do not know it was an illegal alien who did it.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-states-can-disqualify-trump-before-his-campaign-cant-win/995316/123 "2024-01-05T01:21:05Z")

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> [@Askance](#):
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> It could have been deliberate voter fraud, It could have been a simple error, someone with the same name say.

No one on the rolls even close to my name.

> [@Askance](#):
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> But you do not know it was an illegal alien who did it.

Never said it was. My point was to Reimann saying there is no point in voting illegally. My example shows that may be true but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-states-can-disqualify-trump-before-his-campaign-cant-win/995316/124 "2024-01-05T01:45:48Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> My point was to Reimann saying there is no point in voting illegally. My example shows that may be true but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

That’s not at all what Reimann said. Reimann was saying that the last person who’d get involved in illegal voting would be a non-citizen. Which still doesn’t mean it never happens, but it would be exceedingly rare. Even as illegal voting itself is rare, among those illegal votes it must be extremely rare for it to be a non-citizen. They have the least to gain and most to lose in doing such a thing.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-states-can-disqualify-trump-before-his-campaign-cant-win/995316/125 "2024-01-05T02:43:50Z")

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Here in Florida, the land of the part time winter residents, I have heard a number of folks proudly proclaim they vote twice, once “back home up north” and once here in sunny FL.

They say it with the typical NY/NJ twinkle in their eye and pride in their voice that they’ve found a little angle and are exploiting it for all it’s worth. They’re proud they have the _chutzpah_ to do this. And they’re all very evidently native US born citizens.

It can be hard to divine the net partisan breakout in this illegal voting crowd I’m familiar with, so I won’t.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-states-can-disqualify-trump-before-his-campaign-cant-win/995316/126 "2024-02-06T00:22:46Z")

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Well, I started this thread after Maine’s Secretary of State said Trump wasn’t eligible for the ballot. Weeks later he’s still on the Maine ballot. They’re waiting on the Supreme Court decision.

I originally thought several more states would make similar decisions. It hasn’t worked out that way.

The Supreme Court’s decision is key. Except Trump’s already steam rolling through the primary. Saying he’s not eligible now would be a poltical disaster. Trump’s supporters would be outraged. The Supreme Court should have realized a decision had to be made before voting started.

> **[Maine starts in-person absentee voting amid debate on Trump's ballot...](https://wgme.com/news/local/maine-starts-in-person-absentee-voting-amid-debate-on-trumps-ballot-eligibility-2020-election-voting-republican-primary-2024-joe-biden-insurrection-jan-6-maine-secretary-of-state-shenna-bellows)**
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> In-person absentee voting starts on Monday for Maine's presidential primary.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-states-can-disqualify-trump-before-his-campaign-cant-win/995316/127 "2024-02-06T01:06:09Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Why did someone vote under my name a couple decades ago?

Wow. What was your reaction when this happened, and what was the resolution?  
I’ll tell ya, if I went in to vote, and was told that I couldn’t, I would raise holy hell with any authority that would hear me.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-states-can-disqualify-trump-before-his-campaign-cant-win/995316/128 "2024-02-06T02:18:15Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Wow. What was your reaction when this happened, and what was the resolution?

I did and even pulled out my ID to prove who I was. The poll person was basically, “Meh. What do you want me to do about it?” I did get to cast a provisional ballot in the special orange envelope but I highly doubt it was counted. But whoever signed to my name, guarantied theirs got counted.

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