# How many "Supergirls" are there, now?

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**Created:** [April 21, 2004, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-supergirls-are-there-now/241138 "2004-04-21T01:34:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-supergirls-are-there-now/241138/1 "2004-04-21T01:34:49Z")

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In the current DC Comics universe, that is.

I don’t follow DC Comics that closely, so I’m a little behind. I think I remember reading that there are…

•The “main” supergirl, introduced after the Crisis. Linda Danvers, isn’t it?

•“Cir-El”, who I think is Superman’s daughter from the future, or something.

•I think there’s a _third_ supergirl, too. But I could be wrong.

And at to that, they’ve just _Re_ introduced Kara Zor-El to the line.

So, I ask you…how many Supergirls _are_ there, at the moment? And where did they all come from?

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**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-supergirls-are-there-now/241138/2 "2004-04-21T08:08:42Z")

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> [@Ranchoth](#):
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> In the current DC Comics universe, that is.
> 
> I don’t follow DC Comics that closely, so I’m a little behind. I think I remember reading that there are…
> 
> •The “main” supergirl, introduced after the Crisis. Linda Danvers, isn’t it?
> 
> •“Cir-El”, who I think is Superman’s daughter from the future, or something.
> 
> •I think there’s a _third_ supergirl, too. But I could be wrong.
> 
> And at to that, they’ve just _Re_ introduced Kara Zor-El to the line.
> 
> So, I ask you…how many Supergirls _are_ there, at the moment? And where did they all come from?

Where does Power Girl come in?

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-supergirls-are-there-now/241138/3 "2004-04-21T12:48:17Z")

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I’ll do the best I can to answer this question, though I’d stopped following the Superman titles a while back.

There’s Linda, the ‘Earthborn angel’/Matrix gal, who’s hung up the big red ‘S’ permanently, it seems.

There’s Cir-El, who I think died in the end of the Futuresmiths story arc, but I could be wrong.

And there’s Kara Zor-El, the reintroduced Silver-Age Supergirl.

So, one.

However, John Henry Irons’s (Steel’s) niece donned a armored battlesuit and battled alongside Cir-El and a girl called, as far as I can tell, ‘Girl 13’ - a magic user. They were collectively referred to as ‘Supergirls’.

Myself, I’m wondering if Girl 13 is any relation to a similarly-named Phantom Stranger ally, Dr. 13.

As for Power Girl… just don’t even worry about it. Her origin’s been tampered with so many times by other characters in the DC universe and writers for the DC universe, that it’s impossible to say. Hopefully they’ll straighten it all out eventually. But both the idea that she may be Kryptonian and the idea she was of Atlantean origin have been described as false.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-supergirls-are-there-now/241138/4 "2004-04-21T19:36:57Z")

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> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> There’s Linda, the ‘Earthborn angel’/Matrix gal, who’s hung up the big red ‘S’ permanently, it seems.

It’s implied that the red-headed vigilante over in **Fallen Angels** is Linda Danvers. Also written by Peter David, natch.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-supergirls-are-there-now/241138/5 "2004-04-21T19:42:08Z")

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> [@rjung](#):
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> It’s implied that the red-headed vigilante over in **Fallen Angels** is Linda Danvers. Also written by Peter David, natch.

I’ve heard the same, but eh… beyond the scope of the OP’s question, I’d say. She’s no longer Supergirl. 😉

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2004, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-supergirls-are-there-now/241138/6 "2004-04-21T23:24:10Z")

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Re: Power Girl - a new “definitive” origin for her should be appearing in **JSA** within the next year or so.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2004, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-supergirls-are-there-now/241138/7 "2004-04-22T03:18:44Z")

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In John Byrnes’ _Generations_ books (an Elseworlds series), there were three more Supergirls: Kara Kent, the daughter of Clark Kent and Lois Lane, and twin sisters Lara and Lois Wayne, the original Superman’s great granddaughters.
