# How many TV series surved a loss of a major character?

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**Created:** [January 23, 2005, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-tv-series-surved-a-loss-of-a-major-character/286309 "2005-01-23T22:52:49Z")\
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Everybody’s saying they immediately thought of _Cheers._ My first thought was _The Partridge Family._

What?

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_Eight Is Enough_. Diana Hyland, the original mom, died after one season, and Betty Buckly was brough in as the father’s new love interest, and eventually became the step-mom. It went on for about four years after that.

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Dallas survived the death of Jock Ewing. It also survived the death of Bobby Ewing, except it was all Pam’s dream.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2005, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-tv-series-surved-a-loss-of-a-major-character/286309/44 "2005-01-24T13:22:53Z")

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> [@Jayn\_Newell](#):
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> Well, _Charmed_ is in it’s third season without Pru, if I’m counting right.

Yeah, but it’s just never been the same.

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> _Royal Canadian Air Farce_ also lost one of their four mains a couple years ago. They’ve since replaced him, after a stint of weekly guest stars (usually one of three or four people), but it’s just not the same. I want Mike back ☹

One of my favorite shows I now mourn for. The cast is still very talented, but without John Morgan’s writing it lacks the magic it once had.

_“And lo, it came to pass, that Abraham dot com did take himself a wife. A fine strapping woman, known to one and all as the Amazon dot com…”_

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2005, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-tv-series-surved-a-loss-of-a-major-character/286309/45 "2005-01-24T13:28:55Z")

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> [@EvilHamsterOnCrack](#):
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> Stargate SG-1 has lost Richard Dean Anderson, but dunno if it’ll survive long now.

Please, God, let it die already!!!

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2005, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-tv-series-surved-a-loss-of-a-major-character/286309/46 "2005-01-24T13:58:50Z")

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Every soap still on the air.

Jeopardy survived the loss of Ken Jennings.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2005, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-tv-series-surved-a-loss-of-a-major-character/286309/47 "2005-01-24T14:12:07Z")

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> [@prisoner6655321](#):
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> _ER_ survived the loss of George Clooney.

He became a star because of the show, the show wasn’t built around him. At this point, I think the only remaining original cast member is Noah Wyle (could be wrong about this – I stopped watching a few years ago – no, not because George Clooney left 😉 ). Like a lot of 10:00 dramas, the show was designed around an ensemble cast, which gives the producers a lot of flexibility to change story directions with a changing cast. (Cf its predecessor in the Thursday-at-10 slot, _LA Law_; its original rival _Chicago Hope_; _St. Elsewhere_, etc.)

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2005, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-tv-series-surved-a-loss-of-a-major-character/286309/48 "2005-01-24T14:21:31Z")

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Didn’t the Charlie Sheen helmed Spin City hold up for a few years following the loss of Michael J. Fox?

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2005, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-tv-series-surved-a-loss-of-a-major-character/286309/49 "2005-01-24T14:22:48Z")

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Every soap opera has had numerous characters depart during it’s run - that’s what soap operas are.

_Doctor Who_, the entire cast changed numerous times. And it’s coming back … with a new cast.

_Jonathan Creek_ lost Maddie.

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> And later, Dr. Forrester/Crow. And earlier, come to think of it, TV’s Frank. Okay, maybe that’s not major enough…

I believe that the cast at the end of MST3K’s run was 100% altered from its initial state. Kevin Murphy was the longest on-camera veteran at that point, but he wasn’t the first voice of Tom Servo.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2005, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-tv-series-surved-a-loss-of-a-major-character/286309/51 "2005-01-24T14:28:41Z")

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> [@prisoner6655321](#):
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> Hey, do soap opera’s count?

Actually, I was originally thinking SitComs when I asked the question, but I didn’t specify, so I thinking it is all fair game.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2005, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-tv-series-surved-a-loss-of-a-major-character/286309/52 "2005-01-24T15:10:18Z")

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_Bonanza_ lost Adam Cartwright, when Pernell Roberts left (IIRC, he wanted more money than they were willing to pay him). It later lost Hoss Cartwright when Dan Blocker died.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2005, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-tv-series-surved-a-loss-of-a-major-character/286309/53 "2005-01-24T15:22:18Z")

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The X-files survived (for a few seasons anyway) after David Duchovny left (actually I think it died more due to the change in style than characters).

Tikster

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2005, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-tv-series-surved-a-loss-of-a-major-character/286309/54 "2005-01-24T15:41:45Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> NYPD Blue after David Caruso

Maybe he could take a hike and give the same boost to _CSI Miami_.

And I know you suggested only sitcoms but **Roeper** just isn’t as good at is as was **Siskel**. without him **Ebert’s** just plain annoying

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2005, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-tv-series-surved-a-loss-of-a-major-character/286309/55 "2005-01-24T16:35:09Z")

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> [@MacTech](#):
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> oh yeah, and Jool as well, looks like D is dead too, you get a kid named in your memory, you’re dead for good… ☹

The only “major” character to die in _Farscape_ was P’Au Zotoh Zahn. All the others were story plot devices and cliffhangers.

Recurring characters who died were Talyn and Bialar Crais. You could make a case these were major characters, but I’m of the opinion only Moya’s crew counts.

In the 2-part series finale, they killed Jool and Ka’ D’argo. They don’t count as the series ended.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2005, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-tv-series-surved-a-loss-of-a-major-character/286309/56 "2005-01-24T16:56:25Z")

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> [@Tikster](#):
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> The X-files survived (for a few seasons anyway) after David Duchovny left (actually I think it died more due to the change in style than characters).

You are mistaken.

_X-Files_ went off the air when Duchovney left. There were no seasons eight and nine. There was talk of a movie, but nothing ever came of it.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2005, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-many-tv-series-surved-a-loss-of-a-major-character/286309/57 "2005-01-24T17:35:48Z")

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Shows with ensemble casts can change pretty easily. Shows that center around one or two people, however, rarely survive the loss of that person. _Eight Simple Rules_ might still be in production, but how many people still watch it? How many people still care? _X-Files_ tried to go on without David Duchovny, but it just couldn’t. Mulder was too important a character to do without. _Stargate_ might struggle on for another season or two, but without Richard Dean Anderson I can’t see it surviving for long.

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> [@Diceman](#):
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> _X-Files_ tried to go on without David Duchovny, but it just couldn’t. Mulder was too important a character to do without.

Yeah, just like when Flo left **Alice**.

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I never saw the show, but didn’t _Good Times_ survive the departure of the father? I only know him as Admiral Fitzwallace from West Wing, but I think they killed off his character.

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**Blue’s Clues**!

The actor who played “Steve” eventually got tired of being known as “that loser, wussy guy from ‘Blue’s Clues’” and so left the show to start (I’m not kidding) a punk rock career! A new actor playing Steve’s “kid brother Joe” came in. I guess the show survived. I do recall that my nephews stopped watching the show about the time Steve left. But that probably has more to do with them getting older than to do with cast changes.

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