# How much are gays and lesbians protected from drama? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 11, 2012, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901 "2012-07-11T16:44:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901/41 "2012-07-11T19:49:30Z")
I always thought gays loved drama. Or at least musicals. ---
**Author:** ![tapu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@tapu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tapu)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901/42 "2012-07-11T19:52:00Z")
Most lesbian beers are O’Doul’s because at some point or another we all have to get sober. ~ tapu, former bartender at The Flame, San Diego ---
**Author:** ![tapu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@tapu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tapu)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901/43 "2012-07-11T19:53:48Z")
> [@Bozuit](#): > > I always thought gays loved drama. Or at least musicals. Musicals have sucked since Tommy Tune died. And those are just for gay men anyway. We do Poetry Slams!! ---
**Author:** ![happycamper\_5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/cab0a1/32.png) [@happycamper\_5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/happycamper_5)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901/44 "2012-07-11T20:03:07Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > It’s quite simple. > > 1. Straight women don’t drink beer. > > 2. They drink wine and foo-foo-fruity drinks. > > 3. Therefore, the only beer that will go into a woman must be a lesbian. All beers are lesbian? I know a few people who’ll be happy to hear that. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901/45 "2012-07-11T20:11:47Z")
> [@Diamonds02](#): > > Another example that involves a gay male friend. He went on a trip…and shared a hotel bed with one of the straight girls. Her boyfriend found out and he flipped out! There were four people, what was he supposed to do? Sleep in a cot or something? Human sexuality is a spectrum, not a binary. It’s entirely possible that a gay person and a straight person could have sex if the circumstances were right. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendajo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Arrendajo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrendajo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901/46 "2012-07-11T20:16:12Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > What does “token” lesbian mean? 😕 It means she likes to go in the slot. ---
**Author:** ![florez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@florez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/florez)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901/47 "2012-07-11T20:18:49Z")
IMO and from the posting history of the OP, it is Diamonds02 who enjoys drama, and probably gets a kick out of stirring it up. The interest in different reactions like why do the men, women, gays, straights, behave in this way?.. seems like some secondary questions that she brings up after the drama has been set in motion. And she might consider protecting herself from the drama (if she is not welcoming it) by not starting it or seeking it out in the first place, rather then wax on as to why it occurs around her, and then wonder about gay/straight human nature explanations. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901/48 "2012-07-11T20:53:13Z")
> [@Diamonds02](#): > > I am questioning my assumptions. That’s why I started this thread. > > What you are saying is that gender is dominant over orientation for many people, when it comes to judging behavior? That’s not what I’m saying. What I’m saying is that people judge behavior, and some of those people find that of you and your friends to be jerkish. Just like you find some people’s behavior to be jerkish regardless of their gender or orientation. ---
**Author:** ![Barrett\_Bonden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@Barrett\_Bonden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barrett_Bonden)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901/49 "2012-07-11T21:31:07Z")
> [@tapu](#): > > Musicals have sucked since Tommy Tune died. > > And those are just for gay men anyway. > > We do Poetry Slams!! You really had me there for a moment. Mops brow after mad sprint to wikipedia to confirm that Tommy Tune still lives. ---
**Author:** ![ScarletNumber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@ScarletNumber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScarletNumber)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901/50 "2012-07-11T22:37:04Z")
> [@Diamonds02](#): > > I am token lesbian in most of the circles I run in. I wouldn’t want to be the token anything in a social circle. > [@Diamonds02](#): > > Example, I have recently admitted to several guys that if I were straight, I would go after them. … But I am gay! Any attraction of men that I speak of is purely hypothetical. You aren’t as gay as you think you are. > [@Diamonds02](#): > > Another…black lesian couple and white straight couple…the guy in the straight couple and one of the girls in the lesbo couple wanted to go on a fake date at a really popular restaurant to see how people would react to them being in an interracial relationship. The straight girl agreed, but going by her body language she wasn’t comfortable at all! The Aristocrats? ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901/51 "2012-07-11T22:50:26Z")
I miss so much. All the gays in my “circles” seem to also be married professionals and about fifty years old. Almost all the straights are also married professionals about fifty years old. We are mostly past generating drama unless somebody is getting a divorce. We get our drama from watching our kids make asses of themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901/52 "2012-07-11T23:17:07Z")
> [@tapu](#): > > Most lesbian beers are O’Doul’s because at some point or another we all have to get sober. > > ~ tapu, former bartender at The Flame, San Diego Are you saying all lesbians are alcoholics? ---
**Author:** ![tapu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@tapu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tapu)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901/53 "2012-07-11T23:27:10Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Are you saying all lesbians are alcoholics? Humor by hyperbole. Offshoot of “all beers are lesbians.” ---
**Author:** ![tapu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@tapu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tapu)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901/54 "2012-07-11T23:36:11Z")
> [@Barrett\_Bonden](#): > > You really had me there for a moment. > > Mops brow after mad sprint to wikipedia to confirm that Tommy Tune still lives. WHAT?? Tommy Tune is alive??!! I mean, Oh, that’s great, Tommy Time is alive. What’s the matter with me?? :rolleyes: \<—dumdope ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901/55 "2012-07-11T23:37:39Z")
Honestly, a lot of this reminds me of shit that went on in high school. I had a lot of gay friends who loved to flirt with the opposite sex because they enjoyed the attention even if they weren’t interested in the follow-through. My lesbian best friend made out with my gay friend just for fun. Another lesbian friend told me she would have sex with me if I were gay. (I’m very straight, though, so turned her down.) Even so, there was sexual tension of some kind. The lines of sexual orientation were very blurred, because it was all new to everyone. But that was high school. Now everyone is about career and marriage and kids. Seriously, you are describing very immature behavior on everyone’s part. I don’t know how you guys aren’t through this phase by now. I mean that in the kindest way possible. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901/56 "2012-07-11T23:46:43Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Yes, it is an insult, as there’s no other reason to bring it up. We get it: she’s ignorant about social conventions. This board is about fighting ignorance. If you\* have a problem with the poster, there’s a forum for that. Constantly popping into her threads to make fun of how clueless she is serves no purpose other than inflating the egos of the people who do it by belittling hers. They really don’t do much to indicate that these people are actually socially superior, since a child can see through this crap. > > \*You here is plural, obviously. I don’t go around watching to see which person has taken up the “bully the socially clueless” baton for this thread. Leave the modding for the mods, **BigT** and discontinue making posts like this. No warning issued. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2012, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901/57 "2012-07-12T00:26:45Z")
Because people fantasize about others regardless of how known the orientation of the other has been broadcast. You might be gay. Your straight friend’s boyfriend is straight. This doesn’t mean she wouldn’t be a bit jealous if you guys “fake dated” to see how people treat you as a straight female. For all she knows, he’s sporting a huge boner anyway, and for him, who knows, maybe he thinks he’s an exception and there’s a little bi in you. And maybe she’s right. Etcetera, etcetera, alacazam, you’ve just stirred up the murky silt at the bottom of someone’s complicated emotions and insecurities. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2012, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901/58 "2012-07-12T01:16:13Z")
I’m completely with the OP. I’ve even got another example: This one time, a gay poster went onto a message board and provided examples of how she and her gay friends and acquaintances went attention whoring and got caught up in straight people drama and all the posters on that board just got her caught up in even MORE straight people drama. You’d think being gay would make her immune to that kind of reaction! ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2012, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901/59 "2012-07-12T01:43:31Z")
I’m very much curious what **Diamonds02** looks like. I have quite a picture concocted in my head. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![the\_apples\_fell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@the\_apples\_fell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_apples_fell)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901/60 "2012-07-12T02:21:43Z")
Drama has no age, gender, race, or sexual orientation. No one is protected from it, as being dramatic to some extent is a function of human nature. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-are-gays-and-lesbians-protected-from-drama/627901.md?page=4)