# How much did the Jedi know about Anakin and Padme **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 22, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-did-the-jedi-know-about-anakin-and-padme/632231 "2012-08-22T00:42:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-did-the-jedi-know-about-anakin-and-padme/632231/21 "2012-08-23T16:21:22Z")
Never mind the Jedi Council, everyone else seems to be clueless as well. There is a Clone Wars episode where Padme is holding a dinner at her place and Anakin is there, greeting people, playing host and generally acting like the man of the house. They should have found out in 10 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-did-the-jedi-know-about-anakin-and-padme/632231/22 "2012-08-23T16:26:21Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Hey, only a Sith deals in absolutes. > > (Wait, that’s – um – yeahbuhwhat?) Then why does Yoda say “do or do not - there is no try”? That’s pretty absolute right there. And the Jedi should have known not only that she was pregnant, but that there were twins. Both had the Force, and it should have been sensed even in the womb. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-did-the-jedi-know-about-anakin-and-padme/632231/23 "2012-08-23T16:33:16Z")
> [@Sister\_Vigilante](#): > > Then why does Yoda say “do or do not - there is no try”? That’s pretty absolute right there. > > And the Jedi should have known not only that she was pregnant, but that there were twins. Both had the Force, and it should have been sensed even in the womb. Can’t. They would have been violating the “Woman’s Girly Bits Privacy Edict” of 43457, enacted by the Jedi Council after it was discovered that certain young male Padawan were using their force abilities to spy on the girl’s washroom. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-did-the-jedi-know-about-anakin-and-padme/632231/24 "2012-08-23T17:16:33Z")
\ You are having an amazing time - this is the best sex you have ever had. ---
**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-did-the-jedi-know-about-anakin-and-padme/632231/25 "2012-08-23T17:59:13Z")
> [@simster](#): > > \ > > You are having an amazing time - this is the best sex you have ever had. Wasn’t that a scene from X-Men: First Class? ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-did-the-jedi-know-about-anakin-and-padme/632231/26 "2012-08-23T18:01:14Z")
> [@simster](#): > > \ > > You are having an amazing time - this is the best sex you have ever had. Heh. \ “These are not the deabeat dads you’re looking for.” ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-did-the-jedi-know-about-anakin-and-padme/632231/27 "2012-08-23T19:00:17Z")
> [@Sister\_Vigilante](#): > > And the Jedi should have known not only that she was pregnant, but that there were twins. Both had the Force, and it should have been sensed even in the womb. Assumes facts not in evidence. From what I recall in Phantom Menace (and the slaughter scene in Revenge of the Sith), it seems like they don’t test/recruit until maybe 3-5 years of age. There is no way to know when midichlorians [spit] develop or perhaps fully express themselves. Could be tied to second molars or something. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-did-the-jedi-know-about-anakin-and-padme/632231/28 "2012-08-23T19:20:28Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Assumes facts not in evidence. From what I recall in Phantom Menace (and the slaughter scene in Revenge of the Sith), it seems like they don’t test/recruit until maybe 3-5 years of age. There is no way to know when midichlorians [spit] develop or perhaps fully express themselves. > > Could be tied to second molars or something. More likely wisdom teeth. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-did-the-jedi-know-about-anakin-and-padme/632231/29 "2012-08-23T19:22:44Z")
> [@Sister\_Vigilante](#): > > Then why does Yoda say “do or do not - there is no try”? That’s pretty absolute right there. He avoids absolutes in everything, including the “always avoid absolutes” rule. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-did-the-jedi-know-about-anakin-and-padme/632231/30 "2012-08-23T23:41:21Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Obi-Wan definitely knew. He wasn’t stupid. And since Anakin was his best friend, I’m guessing he kept his mouth shut. He might not have known they were actually _married_, but he knew they had a relationship. And there most likely plenty of Jedi to have families. > > And Jedi don’t have to be celibate, but they can’t have [“official relationships”](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/1989505.stm): > > So basically they can do the “friends with benefits” thing. Or visit whores. Even then, there are times when exceptions are granted, like Ki Adi Mundi, the conehead Jedi, who was allowed to marry because his homeword had a severe population issue. (Though that was actually a retcon because of a comic written about his married life before Ep II came out and made up the no attachments stuff). ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-did-the-jedi-know-about-anakin-and-padme/632231/31 "2012-08-24T12:27:31Z")
> [@](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Hey, only a Sith deals in absolutes. > > > > (Wait, that’s – um – yeahbuhwhat?) > > Then why does Yoda say “do or do not - there is no try”? That’s pretty absolute right there. You get that _“only a Sith deals in absolutes”_ is already pretty absolute, right? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-did-the-jedi-know-about-anakin-and-padme/632231/32 "2012-08-25T01:57:22Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > You get that _“only a Sith deals in absolutes”_ is already pretty absolute, right? Well, yes and no… ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-did-the-jedi-know-about-anakin-and-padme/632231/33 "2012-08-25T04:13:56Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > You get that _“only a Sith deals in absolutes”_ is already pretty absolute, right? [Exactly](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/Guinastasia/tumblr_lmz93abwPg1qa6hfio1_500.png) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-did-the-jedi-know-about-anakin-and-padme/632231/34 "2012-08-25T05:11:42Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > You get that _“only a Sith deals in absolutes”_ is already pretty absolute, right? It’s also the refutation for a lack of absolute morality. “Everything’s relative” is an absolute statement. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-did-the-jedi-know-about-anakin-and-padme/632231/35 "2012-08-25T05:27:11Z")
Was that line supposed to make Obiwan look foolish? I mean he is simply not taking Anakin on at all, even though it has just been exposed that the whole Jedi order were manipulated like fools into fighting a fake war for years, while a sith lord ran things right under their noses. Obiwan at that moment seems like the definition of lawful dumb, Anakin is obviouslly insane and evil but Obi should at least be given pause at how foolish the jedi were. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-did-the-jedi-know-about-anakin-and-padme/632231.md?page=1)