How about the millions of people who use it for pain relief instead of opiates or anxiety relief instead of pharmaceuticals or recreation instead of booze or not feeding minorities into the prison industrial complex? But you’re annoyed by stoners in the media from your place of enormous privilege.
I haven’t actually noticed any more people stoned in public than I ever saw.
My BIL uses it for pain relief, and it has allowed him to function and to cut way back on his opioid use. But he’s also discovered that he likes to get high, and my sister says he’s become something of a stoner. And that she thinks it makes him happier. I still haven’t seen him stoned, so maybe there are a lot more stoners out there than there used to be, and I just haven’t noticed. But… if I can’t tell they use weed, why should I care whether they use weed?
Most of the stoners I know being high is their “normal” state and it would actually be unusual to see them stone cold sober. Many of them I may never have.
I’m in the group somewhere between “one drink a week” and “rarely”, but can’t imagine drinking any alcoholic beverage (especially the hard stuff) while trying to avoid at least a mild buzz. It’d be like drinking uncaffeinated coffee.
Mostly I just have a margarita now and then. The added ingredients give it a tolerable taste.
Wow. Same with most of the drunks I know.
Obviously most of the people who drink or toke aren’t drunks or stoners and imbibe responsibly.
I certaily smell a lot more weed than before it was fully legalized here for medical and recreational use, but I have not observed any noticeable uptick in stoned behavior. It’s not like taking a hit turns most people into a zombie or anything. Hell, I work with videographers and the occasional photographer who like to take a hit from their vape towards the end of the night when there’s still like a couple hours to go, and, unless I knew them and saw them, I would not have been able to tell you if they were using or not.
Yeah, well, if i can’t tell, i don’t care. ![]()
Yes, that’s what I was getting at. A toke here or there with little or no visible external effect. Who cares? Some people have the idea that smoking weed just turns you into some zombie or something.
You obviously have never seen Reefer Madness.
Don’t take that toke! You’ll freak out and jump out a window!!
My parents often had wine with dinner when they were still together, and there were cocktails and beer around. My dad was the drinker; although he was right in line with 50’s style drinking, I suspect he was a low-key alcoholic. My mom, who grew up in a teetotal family, rarely drank after they divorced, but she kept some hard liquor in the house for guests and she occasionally had wine. My brother and I were given sips of our parents’ drinks if we asked, and we were allowed a little wine with dinner as teenagers if the grownups were having it. Neither my brother or I drink regularly, but we’ll have one or two in social situations.
My mother-in-law’s family didn’t drink at all, but both of my father-in-law’s parents were serious, vodka-with-the-cornflakes type alcoholics. His father died young of an alcohol-related illness, and his mother abdicated must of the child-rearing to her mom. They never had alcohol in the house, and neither of them ever took a drink. Mr. Legend ended up really struggling with alcohol as a teenager and young adult.
We let our kids taste our drinks if they asked, and although they both drink socially, neither of them has a problem with it. I can’t definitively say that having parents take the mystery out of drinking helps kids develop healthy habits, but I feel like it doesn’t hurt.
Welllllll now, I didn’t read Dinsdale’s remarks as saying that he regretted in any way supporting the legalization of marijuana. I think we’re pretty much all in agreement that a world where sick people can legally get therapeutic relief via pot. and the criminal justice system isn’t churning millions of otherwise lawabiding people through the prison complex just for violating draconian prohibitions on a reasonably harmless substance, is significantly better in some ways than the world we used to have.
But hey, he happens to also feel that the accompanying social normalization of stonedness has made recreational pot consumption less socially appealing to him personally. Okay. I don’t see anything wrong with that, nor do I see it as an unfair exercise of societal privilege.
I second @Kimstu’s take.
Can I third it? ![]()
And, no - I have no misconception that a single toke turns you into a zombie. But, as a long sober former heavy imbiber, I will cite my personal impression that as a very general rule, pot - and booze - tends to make most people NOT as clever as they think they are. YMMV
OK, fine. I apologize. ![]()
To pull this even further back on topic:
I’d argue that measuring liquor pours is really not comparable to meauring portions of other things. 44g of liquor, a standard drink, is a very small amount, especially in a rocks glass or larger. You can easily be 50%, even 100% over what you thought. Food is tricky to guesstimate, but not by as wide a margin.
Measuring liquor is more like measuring out medication than like meausuring out a piece of cake.
This is very true. If I’m going to make a mixed drink, I actually pull out a shot glass, because it’s way too easy to overserve otherwise.
1-2 a week these days, with the odd binge, mostly when I’m traveling or at a festival of some kind.
I rarely drink at home, so the pandemic turned me into a cheap date, but it also made the aftereffects that much worse. If I have a couple of drinks in the evening at this point I can tell it the next day, and it doesn’t take many more than that to make things unpleasant.