Is there a link for those sites?
It seems to me that the “time” portion of your claim here is, by definition, incorrect. Unless the PI is especially slow.
Doing it yourself will definitely save you money, but if you hire someone like a PI, then one of the things that your money is paying for is time. Yes, in many cases you’re also paying for special skills or expertise, but time is a key reason that people pay for services.
If i thought it would take me three hours of internet searching to find a person, and i knew that a PI would also take about three hours, i might still be willing to pay if that time was worth more to me than the cost. I use the same principle when i pay to get my car washed. I’m a perfectly competent car washer, but i’m willing to exchange money for time and convenience, so i hand over some cash for someone else to do it.
I agree with you. What I meant in referring to saving time was, you’re likely to get the results more quickly on your own. In your hypothetical scenario, the time it would take you to think of someone you wanted to track down, sign up for Intelius or its ilk, and then run a relevant report would probably be less than an hour (this assumes your target is relatively easy to find, of course).
Unless the PI you hire is bored or has some other reason to prioritize your request (see previous references to mysterious, leggy blondes), you’re probably going to wait a day or two to get results.
Wrong!
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Some Real PI’s carry guns…
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I rarely do infidelity cases
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Taking photos of subjects in public is legal. You have no expectation of privacy while in public view.
IRB Search, TLO, Skip Smasher, Tracers, etc. They are not accessed by the public.
$75 to $100 an hour
Depend on the purpose for which you wish to establish adultery.
But you’re not trying to convict them of a crime. You don’t need proof beyond reasonable doubt. If you live in a jurisdiction in which civil matters between separated spouses (like the allocation of property, or an award of maintenance) is going to be affected by the conduct of the parties during the marriage and it’s relevant to show that your spouse was the cheater and you were the saintly victim, you only need to show that on the balance of probabilities - i.e. more probably than not, your spouse was screwing around. And the Xbos-session-on-frequent-flyer-miles story may strike the judge as, on balance, less plausible than the they-were-shagging story.
When Brother Cadfael said “in flagrente,” he meant “in flagrante delicto.” In modern-day English, this is a metaphor that means “during sex.” As most people do not have sex in public, it is generally illegal to take pictures that would constitute actual *proof *of infidelity.
This is true in most US states. But not all. e.g. NY state still has fairly primitive laws http://www.divorcesource.com/ds/newyork/new-york-divorce-laws-706.shtml
As I read it they require proving “cruel and inhuman treatment” or adultery. Even if the two people both don’t want to be married to each other, that’s not grounds for a divorce. There is a long drawn out process of legally-sanctioned separation that can lead to divorce.
But adultery is **the **slam-dunk, no further questions your honor, divorce granted, ticket to freedom. So evidence of adultery is valuable stuff, at least in NY.
As to why NY state law remains so troglodytic I have no clue. Likewise how many other states may be stuck in the 1920s.
As I read it, clause for filing 7 is an all-purpose out.
Yes, NYS used to require proof of adultery but those days have passed. My understanding, as a lifelong New Yorker, is that divorce is essentially automatic after six months but cause for filing 1 allows it to be faster for spouses in danger. IANAL and special circumstances may intrude, but divorce is no longer the issue it used to be.
New York adopted a no-fault divorce law in 2010 (though along the lines of what EM said, courts generally only required an assertion of wrongful conduct to grant a divorce anyway.)
When called to testify in a divorce proceeding they will ask them separately about what they were doing in the hotel and they will most likely screw up their prepared lie. It’s lonely up there on the stand in front of a judge with someones asking you pointed questions. Especially when they have photos and information from the hotel register. You paid in frequent flier miles? Then you must have a record of it. Was the Xbox already in the room? We don’t see you taking any luggage into the hotel on the video taken by the PI.
I assume “divorce” is broader than just actual divorce.
IOW someone suspects their spouse of cheating but doesn’t want to raise the issue directly, or raised the issue and was strongly denied, and now they want to know for sure. They may or may not get divorced depending on the answer to the question, but that’s not something the PI would be informed about anyway.
IOW “80%-90% divorce” really just means “80%-90% infidelity”.
The topic has drifted from OP’s question, which was never answered. I’ve never hired a detective, but will take a stab. My source is The Late Show with Lily Tomlin, a 1977 film I enjoyed very much.
[QUOTE=Ira Wells, played by Art Carney]
I get twenty-five dollars a day, plus expenses…
Listen, sweetheart, you’re talking to Ira Wells, not some low-rent gumshoe. I’m the best and I get paid like the best.
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