# How much gold was given to Jesus?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [January 10, 2024, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-gold-was-given-to-jesus/995876 "2024-01-10T06:42:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-gold-was-given-to-jesus/995876/81 "2024-01-22T01:46:28Z")

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> [@Texikid](#):
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> but early art usually shows the gifts in fancy cups.

Ummm…How early is this art?

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**Author:** ![Texikid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texikid/32/17036_2.png) [@Texikid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Texikid)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-gold-was-given-to-jesus/995876/82 "2024-01-22T01:51:38Z")

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The brittanica estimates the art to be from Rome in the 2nd century.  
Pretty late but its the closest image we have so…

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**Author:** ![Texikid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texikid/32/17036_2.png) [@Texikid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Texikid)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-gold-was-given-to-jesus/995876/83 "2024-01-22T02:15:05Z")

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The brittanica estimates the art to be from Rome in the 2nd century.  
Pretty late but its the closest image we have so…

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-gold-was-given-to-jesus/995876/84 "2024-01-22T03:39:13Z")

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> [@Schnitte](#):
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> But why would Matthew list frankincense twice in the same account?

Poor editing skills.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-gold-was-given-to-jesus/995876/85 "2024-01-22T14:13:38Z")

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> [@Texikid](#):
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> 171.004323 kilograms

That is more gold than _I_ can eat, but YMMV.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-gold-was-given-to-jesus/995876/86 "2024-01-22T14:30:32Z")

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When you were way younger, someone should have suggested you try Gold Sambuca.

[![](https://liquor.co.za/media/catalog/product/cache/d895f1dc9320702785ee1c13328d807c/P/R/PR373BI715_L000396_Lupini_Sambuca_Gold_750ml_SZ4.jpg) ](https://liquor.co.za/media/catalog/product/cache/d895f1dc9320702785ee1c13328d807c/P/R/PR373BI715_L000396_Lupini_Sambuca_Gold_750ml_SZ4.jpg)

Now you are a little older, I suggest you do not.

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**Author:** ![Schnitte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/schnitte/32/9033_2.png) [@Schnitte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Schnitte)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-gold-was-given-to-jesus/995876/87 "2024-01-22T18:56:04Z")

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Well, gold is an established food additive; in the system of E numbers that assigns unique numbers to all approved food additives in the European Union, it’s E175. As a noble metal, gold is chemically inert, which means it is not absorbed by the human body but rather simply excreted. So it’s safe to eat.

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**Author:** ![Schnitte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/schnitte/32/9033_2.png) [@Schnitte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Schnitte)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-gold-was-given-to-jesus/995876/88 "2024-01-22T19:05:00Z")

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Since you asked for people to correct your math: 6 fluid ounces (American, not imperial) is about 177.4 cubic centimetres. And gold has a density of 19.32 grams per cubic centimetre, so that should result in about 3.4 kilograms of gold. Also, we shouldn’t forget the constraints of the significant figures we have. The starting point of the calculation was a very rough guess of six fluid ounces, so any result with several decimals suggests false precision.

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**Author:** ![Texikid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texikid/32/17036_2.png) [@Texikid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Texikid)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-gold-was-given-to-jesus/995876/89 "2024-01-22T23:49:14Z")

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Thanks!

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**Author:** ![md-2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@md-2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/md-2000)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-gold-was-given-to-jesus/995876/90 "2024-01-23T19:43:15Z")

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What was the gospel of Matthew written in? Wikipedia says it was written in “synagogue Greek”. Wouldn’t that person know the difference between gold and some aromatic substance. ( “this stuff is great! It’s like pure gold!”)

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-gold-was-given-to-jesus/995876/91 "2024-01-23T19:51:17Z")

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Yeah, but Matthew was probably written circa 80-90 A.D. Fifty years for telling and retelling could switch two words that sound similar fairly easily, especially if we’re talking about two different languages: Aramaic and Koine Greek.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-gold-was-given-to-jesus/995876/92 "2024-01-23T20:20:06Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/CF7OnW4XDck/hqdefault.jpg "Gold Jerry! Gold!!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF7OnW4XDck)

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-gold-was-given-to-jesus/995876/93 "2024-01-24T00:49:05Z")

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But you’re assuming that the story of the magi and the gifts is part of the pre-existing narrative tradition that Matthew is documenting, rather than one of the spectacular literary flourishes that he inserts to make or underline a theological point. In actuality, it looks much more like the latter.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-gold-was-given-to-jesus/995876/94 "2024-01-24T02:53:17Z")

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I am a big believer in Jesus the Teacher, and that generally the Gospels can be trusted. But … this doesnt seem legit.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-gold-was-given-to-jesus/995876/95 "2024-01-24T13:34:18Z")

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I have read _Zealot_ by Aslan, and also there’s the _Marginal Jew_ series by Meier (a Jesuit) which try to tease out the details we can figure out about the historical Jesus from the small clues and details about the times.

However, many of the details surrounding his birth seem to be constructs (embellishments) from standard “humble origins to greatness” legends - the return to Bethlehem for someone poor from the north is highly unlikely. The “so poor he was born in a stable”, the wise men recognizing his importance, his peril at a young age and fleeing danger, displaying precocious learnedness…

There are quite a few other stories weeded out from this collected narrative; some silly, like the apocryphal story of young Jesus zapping a teacher that annoyed him. I presume too many “just so stories” were made up about his childhood and the persons responsible for setting the official gospels a century later simply took out the too absurd ones or those inconsistent with the official doctrine. Recall there was some fairly vicious infighting about assorted heresies in the early days of the church - the gospels were “updated” to ensure they toed the party line.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-gold-was-given-to-jesus/995876/96 "2024-01-24T13:36:46Z")

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> [@UDS1](#):
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> But you’re assuming that the story of the magi and the gifts is part of the pre-existing narrative tradition that Matthew is documenting, rather than one of the spectacular literary flourishes that he inserts to make or underline a theological point. In actuality, it looks much more like the latter.

Granted. Brown in his work offered the note as an aside, in the interest of completeness. He wasn’t promoting it as a likelihood.

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