# How Much Longer Does Ginsburg Have?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 7, 2019, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368 "2019-01-07T19:17:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/261 "2020-07-17T16:19:51Z")

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Just announced she has cancer again. Chemo working well

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/262 "2020-07-17T17:46:48Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> But Mitch and his buddies really couldn’t care less if billions of humans curse their names together with Trump’s for centuries to come, just as long as “they win” in getting what they want right now.

> [@Leaper](#):
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> You know what else occurs to me? Maybe it’s better that America’s time as top dog seems to be passing. If the result of ONE election in ONE country can doom ALL of humankind, I’m not sure that’s the kind of power I want any country to have.

I’m sure many would say I’m being over the top, but I sincerely believe that if RBG dies before 1/20/21 (or 1/3/21 should the Senate go blue) that humanity is looking at a future that looks a lot more like Hunger Games rather than Star Trek TNG. We still have a narrow window to turn things around, but it’s going to be close. If Trump wins, I think that’ll be all she wrote.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/263 "2020-07-18T18:04:32Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> **I would say “we’ll see”, but hopefully we will not because RBG will hang on by sheer force of will until late January.** If that does happen, though, I think it would unleash a volcanic eruption in the body politic that would make the fight over Brett Kavanaugh look like nothing by comparison.

Should the electorate choose wisely in November (for a change), January 3, 2021 will be sufficient.

ETA: That said, I believe that she’s earned a long and fulfilling retirement

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/264 "2020-07-18T18:11:28Z")

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She’s earned a statue. Time to start honoring real heroes.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/265 "2020-07-18T18:59:44Z")

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True dat.

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**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/266 "2020-07-18T21:09:23Z")

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[Republican Senator Joni Ernst says she would support lame-duck supreme court confirmation.](https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2020/07/17/senator-joni-ernst-says-she-would-support-lame-duck-supreme-court-confirmations/5461084002/) Shocked! I am SHOCKED! Well, not that shocked. . .

If enough ppl see Trump as a millstone, they MAY abandon him in a SC nomination. Only a few need to to it to prevent confirmation. He looks to be hurting down-ticket republicans - the question is, do they double-down and try to energize the base by getting another SC ‘win’, or start to distance themselves from him.

My bet is they stick together as a group 'til the end, as it’s probably too late to break away and have it help them in November. This has been what they’ve done for what, two + decades? They’ll stay with the strategy until it is proven to be a losing one. I know McConnell will attempt to seat another conservative SC justice if he possibly can, as sure as the Sun rises in the east, and he’ll probably get the votes to confirm.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/267 "2020-07-18T21:16:00Z")

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If Ginsburg dies shortly before Election Day, there is no reason any Republican senators would shy away from voting for a conservative nominee replacement. Voting in favor of a right-winger to replace Ginsburg would massively juice their voter base; voting against such a nominee would lose enthusiasm votes while not gaining a single Democratic vote. There is every electoral reason for an R senator to vote yes and none to vote no.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/268 "2020-07-18T21:34:06Z")

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The most that I could see happening is that they would claim to be distancing themselves from Trump before the election but they would downplay as much as possible the nomination question if they can. Then, once they’ve secured re-election they can go back to voting for all conservative nominees like they did before (even if they don’t give them vocal support).

And that’s only if Trump is proving a millstone.

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**Author:** ![GnuMe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f17d59/32.png) [@GnuMe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GnuMe)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/269 "2020-07-18T22:04:54Z")

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Her hanging on all this time might be construed as political/idealogical. What’s wrong with others being just as much so?

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/270 "2020-07-19T02:33:29Z")

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We would only need to peel off four senators, and I think there’s a decent shot of that. Not a sure thing by any means, but that’s less than ten percent of the caucus.

> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> If McConnell, at this point, rammed another justice in there from Trump and then lose the presidency and the senate it’s hard to see why the Dems wouldn’t stack the court.

Good point. It could be a short-lived, pyrrhic victory for them. I wonder sometimes about where that would end, but I guess if we can have 435 members of the House, we can have a hundred or more SCOTUS justices.

> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Should the electorate choose wisely in November (for a change), January 3, 2021 will be sufficient.

Ah, true. Good to keep in mind if every day counts!

> [@TriPolar](#):
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> She’s earned a statue

Hear, hear. And John Lewis (who maybe already has one at the EPB?).

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/271 "2020-07-19T12:01:50Z")

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> [@GnuMe](#):
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> Her hanging on all this time might be construed as political/idealogical. What’s wrong with others being just as much so?

Ha!! Good one. “How dare she continue to breathe in and out, day after day.”

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/272 "2020-07-19T17:40:30Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> > [@GnuMe](#):
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> > Her hanging on all this time might be construed as political/idealogical [sic]. What’s wrong with others being just as much so?
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> Ha!! Good one. “How dare she continue to breathe in and out, day after day.”

To be fair, I say the same thing about the America-hating fuckstick all the time.

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**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/273 "2020-07-19T23:58:18Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> To be fair, I say the same thing about the America-hating fuckstick all the time.

No one will take you seriously if you keep using vile slurs. Please attempt to elevate the discussion here above other sites and use his proper name: Fuckface von Clownstick.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/274 "2020-07-20T00:08:50Z")

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> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#):
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> > [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> > To be fair, I say the same thing about the America-hating fuckstick all the time.
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> No one will take you seriously if you keep using vile slurs. Please attempt to elevate the discussion here above other sites and use his proper name: Fuckface von Clownstick.

As far as I can tell, you’re the only one who’s ever noticed that I call him that, so. . .

. . . Huh.

Point taken, I guess

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/275 "2020-07-20T00:41:32Z")

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> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#):
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> Please attempt to elevate the discussion here above other sites and use his proper name: Fuckface von Clownstick.

No, that was the original German name, Pfuckface von Klownstickpf, which his grandfather Pfred later americanized.

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**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/276 "2020-07-20T14:00:24Z")

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Waitaminute… I thought it was “Pampers von Bunkerkind”? My notes are a mess.

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