# How Much Longer Does Ginsburg Have? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 7, 2019, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368 "2019-01-07T19:17:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/141 "2019-08-24T14:17:08Z")
Well, true, if it’s possible for a person to get cancer once, then it’s possible for them to get it twice independently. Hence the “usually”. ---
**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/142 "2019-08-28T17:26:26Z")
Man, this is grim. I feel like if Ginsburg dies - at this moment in time - it will be a massive turning point. The politicality of the USSC is, of course, completely incomprehensible to me, but at least there has been a balance. Having one side that’s so violently anti-institutional with a 6-3 advantage brings to mind what’s been going on in Hungary, Poland and Turkey lately … ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/143 "2019-08-28T17:41:06Z")
If Ginsburg dies while President Trump is in office, liberals will absolutely lose their shit. It will be epic. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/144 "2019-08-28T17:48:04Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > If Ginsburg dies while President Trump is in office, liberals will absolutely lose their shit. It will be epic. It should be fine as long as it’s in his last year of the term. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/145 "2019-08-28T18:09:33Z")
After all, McConnell would never vote on a nomination during an election year: he’d let the voters decide, instead. ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/146 "2019-08-28T18:21:17Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > It should be fine as long as it’s in his last year of the term. But it won’t be and you know that. He wasn’t supposed to get even one year, Hillary was a given. And then all the Russia election fraud would do him in shortly. Or his tax returns, or the things he has said, or the things that he Twitters. Or something, something… The current field of Democratic candidates doesn’t look real strong, and the party is not unified and has little message other than free candy for everyone. So they will go safe and it will be Biden as the nominee. His heart isn’t even close to being committed to this. Warren and Sanders are two sides of the same coin, and there is no one else. So it will be a second term for Trump and we just have to ride it out. And that means Trump gets at least one more supreme court pick, maybe two. Sleep well, my friend. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/147 "2019-08-28T18:29:09Z")
> [@Dallas\_Jones](#): > > But it won’t be and you know that. > > He wasn’t supposed to get even one year, Hillary was a given. And then all the Russia election fraud would do him in shortly. Or his tax returns, or the things he has said, or the things that he Twitters. Or something, something… > > The current field of Democratic candidates doesn’t look real strong, and the party is not unified and has little message other than free candy for everyone. So they will go safe and it will be Biden as the nominee. His heart isn’t even close to being committed to this. Warren and Sanders are two sides of the same coin, and there is no one else. > > So it will be a second term for Trump and we just have to ride it out. And that means Trump gets at least one more supreme court pick, maybe two. > > Sleep well, my friend. If you feel strongly about all of this, you could make a fortune on the betting markets. Or lose a fortune, if you’re wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/148 "2019-08-28T18:50:09Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > If you feel strongly about all of this, you could make a fortune on the betting markets. Or lose a fortune, if you’re wrong. That is just how I see it. I’ll get back to you after the primaries. Sanders is still being an just angry old man. An angry young man might pull it off but not Bernie. Warren has good ideas but comes across, to me, as too weak. And Biden’s time was yesterday, or the day before yesterday, and he has no fire in the belly to want it. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/149 "2019-08-28T18:56:33Z")
> [@Dallas\_Jones](#): > > That is just how I see it. I’ll get back to you after the primaries. > > Sanders is still being an just angry old man. An angry young man might pull it off but not Bernie. Warren has good ideas but comes across, to me, as too weak. And Biden’s time was yesterday, or the day before yesterday, and he has no fire in the belly to want it. Way too early for these sorts of judgments for the primary, much less what they might mean for the general, IMO. These are basically wild guesses. We’ll see. I’m cheered by the likelihood that all the Democratic candidate needs to get to win is slightly more votes than Hillary in PA, WI, and MI. But I’m still not making a prediction – not until Nate Silver’s model does. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/150 "2019-08-28T22:44:23Z")
If an angry old man can’t pull it off, then the Democrats have nothing to worry about. What do you think Trump is? ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/151 "2019-08-28T23:15:30Z")
Another thing to think about, it seems in most of this thread, everyone assumes that Ginsburg will stay in office right up until the moment she dies. Now granted, she does strike me as a workhorse that is dedicated to her job, but I was surprised to learn that Scalia was only the third Supreme Court Justice to ever die in office. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/152 "2019-08-28T23:24:29Z")
If she _resigns_ while President Trump is still in office, I doubt the left will ever forgive her. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/153 "2019-08-28T23:28:17Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > If she _resigns_ while President Trump is still in office, I doubt the left will ever forgive her. As a loyal member of “the left,” I hope she stays as long as she can. If she feels she has to resign for health or other personal reasons, I would certainly not think I had to “forgive her.” ---
**Author:** ![pjacks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@pjacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjacks)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/154 "2019-08-29T01:43:16Z")
I’ve already not forgiven her for refusing to retire back when Obama held the White House & Democrats held the Senate. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/155 "2019-08-29T05:41:41Z")
I agree with pjacks. So at this point she better have the opposite of a DNR order, and every legal avenue should be taken, while she is hooked up to the machines and Trump is still in office, to insist that she “might get better” so we have to wait. ---
**Author:** ![Hermitian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hermitian/32/470_2.png) [@Hermitian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermitian)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/156 "2019-08-29T13:28:37Z")
> [@pool](#): > > Another thing to think about, it seems in most of this thread, everyone assumes that Ginsburg will stay in office right up until the moment she dies. Now granted, she does strike me as a workhorse that is dedicated to her job, but I was surprised to learn that Scalia was only the third Supreme Court Justice to ever die in office. I am pretty sure that even if she dies in office, her aides will still wheel her in and wiggle her arm and head every once in a while to confirm that she is alive. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/157 "2019-08-29T15:33:10Z")
> [@Hermitian](#): > > I am pretty sure that even if she dies in office, her aides will still wheel her in and wiggle her arm and head every once in a while to confirm that she is alive. “Weekend at Ruthie’s” I guess ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/158 "2019-08-31T21:59:13Z")
Today RBG filmed an interview in connection with the National Book Festival. I watched some of it; she’s clearly in great mental shape and I don’t see much difference in her physical demeanor, either. > [@](#): > > When asked how she was feeling, Ginsburg quipped, “Well first, this audience can see that I am alive!” > > The festival crowd cheered. > **[After Cancer Treatment, Ginsburg Says She'll Be Ready For High Court's...](https://www.npr.org/2019/08/31/756291636/after-cancer-treatment-ginsburg-says-shell-be-ready-for-high-court-s-october-ter)** > > "This audience can see that I am alive!" the justice said to a crowd at the National Book Festival on Saturday. Ginsburg underwent three weeks of radiation treatment this month. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/159 "2019-09-19T02:41:37Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Today RBG filmed an interview in connection with the National Book Festival. I watched some of it; she’s clearly in great mental shape and I don’t see much difference in her physical demeanor, either. > > [https://www.npr.org/2019/08/31/756291636/after-cancer-treatment-ginsburg-says-shell-be-ready-for-high-court-s-october-ter](https://www.npr.org/2019/08/31/756291636/after-cancer-treatment-ginsburg-says-shell-be-ready-for-high-court-s-october-ter) Yes, but… She’s 85. Admittedly my views on this are colored by the fact that I’ve become my 85-year-old father’s caretaker. And here’s the thing. He too is a federal judge (district court), on inactive status. He is in no way competent to be a judge anymore. He’s exactly the same age as Justice Ginsberg (and, in fact, was in her class at Columbia Law, and knows her slightly). And I know there’s no way he should be on the bench. I really, really worry about the competence of anyone at that age. I worry about Bernie Sanders getting elected. I know, there are exceptions, and RBG is probably one of them. But still… ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-longer-does-ginsburg-have/827368/160 "2019-09-19T04:23:22Z")
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