# How much more incompetence and corruption is still to be revealed now that the trump era is over? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 13, 2020, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510 "2020-11-13T14:00:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510/41 "2020-11-15T03:37:41Z")
I am not sure why you posted that. Have you seen Biden say he is keen on pursuing Trump’s malfeasance? Or have you seen Biden say he wants to unite everyone in peaceful harmony? ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510/42 "2020-11-15T05:53:43Z")
> [@Daithi\_Lacha](#): > > I’d love for the venal criminality of the current _soi dissant_ administration to be exposed, but do we really want Trump’s name occupying headlines for the next several years? Is there anything about Trump’s record to date that indicates he WON’T be in the headlines for the next several years if he isn’t incarcerated? If he isn’t brought up short, we’ll be hearing about him daily in his ‘rallies’ which will be paid attendance, book tours, Republican king-making, call ins to Fox and Friends or his new BFF network, or even Trump news. He will NEVER be gone, and especially if he isn’t prosecuted, he’ll be a considered a patron saint to those of his base, just like Reagan was to mainstream Republicans for years. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510/43 "2020-11-15T08:24:26Z")
This. Plus he may well run again in 2024, and he had most of the GOP living in fear of his base. Expecting bipartisan action is a total joke considering that most of the GOP won’t even admit Trump lost yet. Now Biden shouldn’t spend any time at all on this. All he needs to do is to have the DoJ and the prosecutors respect the law for a change. They could give the Donald a full agenda of court appearances to keep him busy for the next few years. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510/44 "2020-11-15T16:50:40Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > Is there anything about Trump’s record to date that indicates he WON’T be in the headlines for the next several years if he isn’t incarcerated? . . . . if he isn’t prosecuted, he’ll be a considered a patron saint to those of his base, just like Reagan was to mainstream Republicans for years. I agree. Our best hope is that he succumb to lingering complications from the virus, or general crappy health. ---
**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510/45 "2020-11-15T18:38:39Z")
Oh, I don’t care if he appears continuously below the fold, or in the “police blotter” section. I just don’t want him in headlines. That almost seems like a reward, no matter how dire the subject matter. ---
**Author:** ![Brayne\_Ded](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Brayne\_Ded](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brayne_Ded)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510/46 "2020-11-15T19:28:58Z")
It won’t be up to Biden. All he has to do is let the investigative journalists and the lawyers go at Trump. He will most likely say some platitudes to avoid looking personally vindictive, but he has nothing to gain by covering up Trump’s mess. Indeed, a full exposure is likely to hurt the Republicans such that their chances of winning in 2024 will drop. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510/47 "2020-11-15T19:36:11Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > He has copped to the things he has done wrong, said he wants to fix them but when he had a chance to do that in eight years as VP he didn’t even try. Yeah, when your sole constitutional power is to break ties in the Senate, you can really get things done! Biden never even tried! ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510/48 "2020-11-15T19:37:06Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > The DoJ was acting like Trump’s personal defense counsel. And that is only one example of his perfidy. You must have forgotten the Obama years. Remember this? The Attorney General said this: > **[Eric Holder: 'I'm still the president's wingman'](https://www.politico.com/blogs/politico44/2013/04/eric-holder-im-still-the-presidents-wingman-160861)** > > In radio interview, AG still coy about how long he plans to remain in administration ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510/49 "2020-11-15T23:07:50Z")
Dick Cheney sure got his agenda a lot of love. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510/50 "2020-11-15T23:17:26Z")
I’ll raise you: > **[Justice Dept. Blocked in Bid to Shield Trump From Rape Defamation Suit...](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/27/nyregion/jean-carroll-trump-rape-lawsuit.html)** > > The Justice Department tried to intervene to represent President Trump against the lawsuit by the writer E. Jean Carroll, who claims he lied when he denied raping her. So yeah…they tried that. And FWIW I have no love for Holder and the Obama admin which let banks completely off the hook (see: [HSBC](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/gangster-bankers-too-big-to-jail-102004/)). ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510/51 "2020-11-16T03:25:33Z")
Andrew McCabe has something on Trump as well: > **[Secret intelligence exists that ‘would cast Trump in very negative light’,...](https://news.yahoo.com/secret-intelligence-exists-cast-trump-144320428.html)** > > ‘It’s almost incomprehensible to me that he would want that information out,’ says Andrew McCabe ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510/52 "2020-11-16T03:46:20Z")
So that was blocked and never happened. Is that it? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510/53 "2020-11-16T03:50:53Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > So that was blocked and never happened. Is that it? - No. An attempt is still wrong. Just like attempted murder/robbery/assault is still a crime. ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510/54 "2020-11-16T04:10:37Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > An attempt is still wrong. Just like attempted murder/robbery/assault is still a crime. This says that something similar was done for **Obama and Bush** : “…similar motions were made on behalf of Presidents Obama and Bush 43…” > **[Why Government Lawyers Are Defending Trump | National Review](https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/09/why-government-lawyers-are-defending-trump/)** > > The DOJ one-ups E. Jean Carroll in gamesmanship over ‘defamation’ lawsuit against the president. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510/55 "2020-11-16T04:15:22Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > “…similar motions were made on behalf of Presidents Obama and Bush 43…” Oh, do tell. The article doesn’t actually say what those motions were or what they were covering up. Pretty worthless as a cite. Right up there with “many people are saying”. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510/56 "2020-11-16T05:53:46Z")
Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there! That’s all you’ve got? ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510/57 "2020-11-16T12:32:45Z")
Just Obama’s Attorney General of the United States saying he’s Obama’s “_ **wingman** _” and affirming that he’s "_ **there with my boy"** _. Has Bill Barr ever said that about Trump? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510/58 "2020-11-16T12:42:01Z")
Do you have a cite for the actual coverup you claimed upthread? In a way, the AG _is_ the President’s “wingman”. That doesn’t mean actually covering up illegal activities. Barr tried to block a rape accusation which did not occur (the rape itself) while Trump was in office. Did Holder ever do something on that level? ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510/59 "2020-11-16T13:08:40Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Do you have a cite for the actual coverup you claimed upthread? In a way, the AG _is_ the President’s “wingman”. That doesn’t mean actually covering up illegal activities. Attorney General Holder pledging loyalty to Obama is not a cover up because they weren’t even attempting to cover it up. Holder was very open about his pledge of allegiance to Obama. But Holder was cited for contempt for his role in covering up allegations of illegal activity in weapons trafficking by the Obama admin. I’m not seeing where Barr tried to block a rape accusation. Do you have a source for that claim? ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2020, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510/60 "2020-11-16T13:16:46Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there! Is this something you used to do and say all the time as a kid or something? I’m curious how this random non sequitur became your favorite catchphrase. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-more-incompetence-and-corruption-is-still-to-be-revealed-now-that-the-trump-era-is-over/925510.md?page=4)