# How much morphine in a medics kit

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**Created:** [October 29, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-morphine-in-a-medics-kit/515559 "2009-10-29T03:36:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-morphine-in-a-medics-kit/515559/1 "2009-10-29T03:36:54Z")

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so, I’m watching Private Ryan, and they’re injecting wounded soldiers with preloaded mophine syringes. Anybody know the dosage on that? Just professional curiosity.

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**Author:** ![cornflakes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@cornflakes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cornflakes)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-morphine-in-a-medics-kit/515559/2 "2009-10-29T04:32:20Z")

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Googling around, it looks like a pack of five 1.5cc syrettes was most common. A few of the sites that I found said that morphine tartrate was added to packs at the direction of the CO.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-morphine-in-a-medics-kit/515559/3 "2009-10-29T04:49:07Z")

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1. How long does morphine last without refrigeration?

2. Is it true that some bush pilots carry morphine in their survival kits, in case they are severely injured in a crash? (If so, I assume the would return the unused drug as it expires and replace it with a new one.)

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**Author:** ![Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/db5fbb/32.png) [@Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hirka_T_Bawa)\
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> [@cornflakes](#):
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> Googling around, it looks like a pack of five 1.5cc syrettes was most common. A few of the sites that I found said that morphine tartrate was added to packs at the direction of the CO.

What was the concentration of those 1.5mL syrettes? Do you know?

> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> 1. How long does morphine last without refrigeration?

I’m assuming it was the same back then as now, but morphine doesn’t require any refrigeration, it is stable at room temperature.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-morphine-in-a-medics-kit/515559/5 "2009-10-29T06:39:55Z")

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Generally if you are using intramuscular morphine sulphate 5-10mg is a standard dose.

Off the top of my head I don’t know the dose conversion for the tartrate.

When I’ve carried a cardiac ambulance bleep (i.e. if it goes off I get taken in an ambulance to the home of someone having a heart attack and give them lysis immediately\*) I’ve carried 20mg of Morphine Sulphate with me at all times. I would imagine an army medic would need more.

- In actuality I was often called to the home of someone who had chest pain of a non-cardiac cause, or I was called to the home when CPR was already in progress so that the paramedics could stop on the instructions of a doctor. The latter situation was sadly quite common, and lead my boss at the time to nickname the cardiac ambulance the “mobile death certification unit.”

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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-morphine-in-a-medics-kit/515559/6 "2009-10-30T03:02:28Z")

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Interesting,  
In my neck of the woods medics can request a termination or a non-initiation of CPR order over the radio.

I would have figured 5 or 10mg was a reasonable one size fits all dosage for combat wounds, I was just curious about the specific dose they carried.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-morphine-in-a-medics-kit/515559/7 "2009-10-30T03:15:58Z")

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Pre-filled morphine syringes come in two sizes, 1 ml=10mg for adults and 1ml=1mg for pediatrics. EMS carries 10 mg. During Viet Nam medics carried the adult dose prefilleds. At least, that’s what they taught us in Medic school. I spent the Viet Nam years in Amarillo, TX, on a pediatric ward.
