# How much of an impact could Taylor Swift have on the 2024 election?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 18, 2023, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758 "2023-08-18T14:49:31Z")\
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Someone needs to figure out the loophole that gets this brilliant idea done. Maybe something similar to those Publishers Clearinghouse Sweepstakes that “require no purchase” but that are clearly created to drum up business. A compulsion to vote that doesn’t actually require you to vote.

Think people!

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Just a voter registration booth gauntlet that you have to go through to get in, with links to voter registration sites on the ticket site then!

Serious point is that she can do more if she wants to. Team Trump disrespecting her would not be wise.

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That would be perfect for when she resumes her tour [in Miami on 10/18](https://www.taylorswift.com/tour-us/).

It would have been awesome if she’d had the premonition to round out her US shows in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia the week before the election, instead of New Orleans and Indianapolis.

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> For her _songs_ she frequently collaborates, famously with her long time producer and co-writer Jack Antonoff.

And Aaron Dressner.

> [@BigT](#):
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> but there is that whole video where she talks with her publicity staff about why she needs to say something about Trump back in 2020. It sure looks like there are a lot of people involved in her messaging, and that she has to spend time convincing them.

This one?  
[https://youtu.be/BDMwCGdKeCQ?si=6j14D-R7LPZJ0REC](https://youtu.be/BDMwCGdKeCQ?si=6j14D-R7LPZJ0REC)  
Looks like her parents and a publicist or agent? Not really a lot.

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/245 "2024-09-13T01:13:10Z")

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Possibly one of the dumber links I’ll post - Taylor has apparently pissed in Megyn’s Corn Flakes.

> **[Megyn Kelly Said "F You, Taylor Swift" After The Singer Endorsed Kamala...](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/megyn-kelly-said-f-taylor-215840827.html)**
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> "You can kiss your sales to the Republican audience goodbye, Taylor."

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> [@flurb](#):
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> My understanding is that it’s illegal to offer items of value as inducements to vote or to register to vote in federal elections.

Hm, last cycle, there was definitely a place around here offering a free donut to anyone showing their “I Voted” sticker.

Is that federal law, or state?

Another option, which the Harris campaign is apparently already pursuing (because Harris, like Swift, is smart), is Swift-style bracelets that say “I voted”. You could still get one even if you didn’t, of course, but it’ll still probably convince a lot of folks to vote just to “qualify” to wear one.

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Funny. I’m pretty sure Republicans were already supposed to be boycotting her seven or eight times over for endorsing Biden/writing a pro-LGBT song/going to football games/WOKE/swearing in some of her lyrics/not making country music anymore/beefing with Kanye/not propagating the white race/wearing white after Labor Day, and yet she just keeps getting richer, every single song she records makes the Hot 100, and she breaks Ticketmaster every time she announces new tour dates.

These guys love threatening to boycott stuff. Actually doing it is harder.

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Is that federal law, or state?

Federal law ([18 U.S. Code § 597](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/597)) provides that making or offering an expenditure to a person to induce them to vote or not to vote is a crime punishable by up to two years in prison. I’m sure many states have similar laws as well.

Of course, the feds aren’t going to go after a mom-and-pop offering a free donut for flashing an “I voted” sticker, but I’m sure Tay-Tay’s lawyers would shut down anything that could remotely be considered in violation of the law for fear of what a potential Trump Justice Department would do.

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_The bigger the cushion  
The sweeter the pushin’._

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> [@Airbeck](#):
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> > [@Jophiel](#):
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> > I’m amused that some people think you need a whole team to compose four short paragraphs on Instagram.
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> Same here. I saw a post on Threads yesterday talking about her choices in her endorsement post, for example the usage of “you” vs “I” especially in the opening paragraph, how she brought up the fake AI posts as a reason she had to do this. Giving total agency to the reader is apparently a very persuasive technique. It was also mentioned that she first fell in love with words before she got into music and would have been an English teacher had she not been a musician. I don’t think she needed help to write that, but running it past her publicist first doesn’t sound unlikely.

I completely agree. The idea that Taylor Swift convened some kind of committee to draft that statement is absurd. She’s an accomplished songwriter, FFS! I have no doubt she had a few close friends or associates look it over, but come on!

Also note one of the concluding sentences:

> I was so heartened and impressed by her selection of running mate @timwalz, who has been standing up for LGBTQ+ rights, IVF, and a woman’s right to her own body for decades.

A professional copy editor would have noticed the misplaced adjectival phrase “for decades”. It would more properly have been written “… who has been standing up for decades for LGBTQ+ rights, IVF, and a woman’s right to her own body.”

To me, this was clearly a heartfelt personal note that was probably run by a few close friends before posting, and nothing more than that. The idea that this was some major formal production is just ridiculous.

The impact it will have, however, is an entirely different matter. I think it’s already becoming clear that at a minimum it will create hundreds of thousands of new votes for Harris.

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Nm, don’t want to hijack.

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I completely agree. The idea that Taylor Swift convened some kind of committee to draft that statement is absurd. She’s an accomplished songwriter, FFS! I have no doubt she had a few close friends or associates look it over, but come on!

I feel the same. No reason why she couldn’t have written it. She has the writing skill, if her songs are anything to go by. Besides, plenty of young people have the writing chops to put together a coherent, if not captivating, message—remember, S.E. Hinton wrote _The Outsiders_ when she was between the ages of 15 and 18. And didn’t we all read it in our teens?

Swift’s impact? Likely plenty. If she gets 18 to 31-year-olds to vote, great. She’s definitely not yet another dusty old congresscritter who cannot speak to that demographic. But she’s somebody who already has the attention of that demographic, and I’d suggest that they’ll listen to her before any backbencher politician.

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She is also originally from Pennsylvania, which can’t hurt.

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What I love about Swift’s endorsement is how it makes Trump and Vance look like reactionary troglodytes from a bygone era. Vance’s ridiculous and ill-considered rebuttal to the endorsement just underscores how out of touch they are.

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> I feel the same. No reason why she couldn’t have written it.

What’s really funny is, if Travis Kelce had posted a statement like this, everyone would assume Taylor wrote it for him. Yet when Taylor posts it herself, suddenly she’s not capable of writing it.

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> What’s really funny is, if Travis Kelce had posted a statement like this, everyone would assume Taylor wrote it for him. Yet when Taylor posts it herself, suddenly she’s not capable of writing it. &nbsp;

There seems to be this perception that if you’re rich and famous, everything you post must have been run through a PR team. But celebrities are just human beings with social media accounts. It’s pretty obvious that the illiterate rants that Trump posts, for example, are his own and not professionally edited, although one might question whether Trump is actually a human being, and a few of his more coherent posts and press releases are clearly written by somewhat competent PR people.

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Here’s how a boycott would go: One MAGAT puts up one seat for sale in a 70,000 seat stadium. 0.01 seconds later, it’s snatched up by a desperate fan.

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> It would more properly have been written “… who has been standing up for decades for LGBTQ+ rights, IVF, and a woman’s right to her own body.”

“who for decades has been standing up for…”

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> There seems to be this perception that if you’re rich and famous, everything you post must have been run through a PR team.

Absolutely. For example, I’m sure you had several people help you write and review this very post. 😉

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It coulda been her that wrote it. It coulda been her Mom. It coulda been staff.

It’s beside the point. The question is, will she have an impact? Yes.

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