# How much of an impact could Taylor Swift have on the 2024 election? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 18, 2023, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758 "2023-08-18T14:49:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/61 "2024-01-31T20:15:12Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I don’t think there are any genuine election issues anymore. Just brief soundbites and dumb shit. There will be no discussion of actual policies, or how to run the country, or what is a better direction for the economy. The three BIG LIES the GOP keeps spreading are- We have an open border- false. Crime is out of control- false- crime is at a low. The economy is terrible and it’s Bidens fault- the economy is current great and the President has little control. Real issues- gun control, abortion, etc- the GOP has decided to skip. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/62 "2024-01-31T20:26:44Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > I’ll tell you what, though, if anyone goes after her at a concert, they aren’t getting out alive. That’s the ultimate parasocial fantasy, to be the girl who saved Taylor’s life. After the scrum was pulled apart, they’d find the guy with a glitter heart drawn around his gouged-out eyes and suffocated with 100 friendship bracelets stuffed in his mouth. That’s … pretty vivid. Are you getting enough sleep? Been under any unusual stress lately? 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/63 "2024-01-31T20:29:25Z")
Imagine if Taylor does endorse Biden. When the inevitable wailing, gnashing of teeth, and pulling of hair comes from the MAGAts will she turn to them and say, “Look what you made me do.” ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/64 "2024-01-31T20:32:05Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > Been under any unusual stress lately? I’m taking my niece to see Taylor in London in June, and intense negotiations are underway about what I’m willing to wear. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/65 "2024-01-31T20:34:06Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > intense negotiations are underway about what I’m willing to wear. Is there an style one is expected to wear to Swift concerts? ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/66 "2024-01-31T20:40:10Z")
But, does she win the Super Bowl? That remains to be seen. Will she make it there in time from her concert in Japan? I am on the edge of my seat. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/67 "2024-01-31T20:42:14Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Is there an style one is expected to wear to Swift concerts? She has a huge body of work with different musical and visual styles that are _all_ being celebrated in this tour (that’s the Eras thing), and there are endless recurring motifs and symbols, songs referencing other songs, “easter eggs” hidden in lyrics or videos that the fans hunt out. So you’ll see fans dressed up in dozens of different ways that reference a particular song or video or era style or recurring motif. And none of these things are likely to preserve my dignity. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/68 "2024-01-31T20:42:21Z")
7 or 8 friendship bracelets and a scrunchy in your hair. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/69 "2024-01-31T20:50:04Z")
The last big concert I went to was Dylan in 1986, and I wish I’d kept a tee shirt from then, that would have been perfect. I’m not just going for my niece, I’m going for myself too - I think she’s a remarkable songwriter, at least as good as old Bob. Maybe I can make up a T-shirt with a picture of Bob and “Tangled Up In Lavender Haze”, that’ll confuse them. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/70 "2024-01-31T20:55:45Z")
It sounds fun. I don’t have any interest in learning to like the music, but I envy the joy her fans are getting out of it. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/71 "2024-01-31T21:30:08Z")
There are youth votes and then there are youth votes. Reagan came close to winning 18-29s in 1980 and then did in '84, followed by Bush I repeating the feat. The current batch of yutes is voting blue by over 25 points; Trump’s margin is already razor thin, he can’t afford any more young women motivated to pull the lever for the other guy. ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/72 "2024-01-31T22:03:48Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > If Swift really wanted to get her fans to vote for Biden, she could have limited her tour to “blue states” at first, and send the not-particularly-too-hidden message that any remaining state that wants her to show up had better not only vote for Biden in 2024 Any impact she has will not be in shaming MAGA and Republican or die people into changing sides, it will be in getting some of her fans to vote who would otherwise have not bothered. > [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > Reagan came close to winning 18-29s in 1980 and then did in '84, followed by Bush I repeating the feat. Her fans span all ages, so it isn’t just 18-29. Half of US adults claim to be Swift fans. Many of those will already be planning to vote one way or another, but the battle ground states are so close that 10-20,000 extra votes could easily make a difference. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/73 "2024-01-31T22:17:36Z")
> [@echoreply](#): > > Half of US adults claim to be Swift fans. I have never listened to her music. I am a very big fan. She’s pissing trumpy off and getting young people to vote. All she needs to do now is start sending books to children and I will be one of her BIGGEST fans ever!!! ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/74 "2024-01-31T22:20:06Z")
> [@JaneDoe42](#): > > All she needs to do now is start sending books to children and I will be one of her BIGGEST fans ever!!! She probably already does that. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/75 "2024-01-31T22:33:15Z")
> [@echoreply](#): > > Half of US adults claim to be Swift fans. Many of those will already be planning to vote one way or another, but the battle ground states are so close that 10-20,000 extra votes could easily make a difference. I agree that small factors like this impact a close race. But as for half being Swift fans: [Seventeen percent of those surveyed reported having “very positive” views of Swift, while 22% had “somewhat positive” views.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/taylor-swift-transcends-americas-political-divides-barely-rcna125908) Personally, I am in the seventeenth percent with very positive views. I’ve never heard the slightest thing bad about her. But I am in no way a fan. Her endorsing Biden will sway some votes. But, like any reminder to vote, it will remind possible/uncertain voters on both sides to vote. If she really wants to help Biden, she should hire a market research company to recruit uncertain voters and ask them how they would feel about differently worded possible endorsements. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/76 "2024-01-31T22:37:43Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > If she really wants to help Biden, she should hire a market research company to recruit uncertain voters and ask them how they would feel about differently worded possible endorsements. She’s directly and personally responsible for all the business decisions that have got her where she is. Whatever she does, it will be carefully planned. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/77 "2024-01-31T22:40:12Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > She’s certainly a BLM ally and an LGBT ally, but I think the thing that can really swing this election is a lot of new women voters turning out and even moderate Republican women turning on the Republican Party. That’s where she can be hugely influential. If she gets Millennial and Gen Z women voting in big numbers, she could potentially end the Republican Party. And if they keep attacking her, that might happen. They’re terrified of her for good reason. > [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > Oprah Winfrey once said that she would never eat another hamburger She’s much bigger than Oprah. Oprah could never sell out Sofi Stadium (L.A.) 6 times with thousands listening from the parking lot. She probably could’ve sold out more dates. An ongoing campaign against her could mobilize the Swifties. They’re playing with fire by constantly attacking her. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/78 "2024-02-01T01:35:23Z")
If only she would give a fundraising concert for Biden. MAGA heads would asplode. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/79 "2024-02-01T04:59:12Z")
> [@JaneDoe42](#): > > All she needs to do now is start sending books to children and I will be one of her BIGGEST fans ever!!! > **[A Timeline of Taylor Swift’s Generosity](https://www.billboard.com/lists/taylor-swifts-charity-donations-gifts-timeline/october-2011-she-donates-70000-in-books-to-her-hometown-library/)** > > The musician has a long history of donating her earnings. n the midst of her Speak Now tour, the star donated 6,000 books to the Reading Public Library in Pennsylvania. The books were all new and geared towards children and teens, according to the local [_Reading Eagle_](https://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=339089). Mind you, I am not a 'swifty", I own none of her music, etc, but I find her music pretty nice for Pop. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/80 "2024-02-01T05:04:36Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > the midst of her Speak Now tour, the star donated 6,000 books to the Reading Public Library in Pennsylvania. The books were all new and geared towards children and teens, according to the local [_Reading Eagle_](https://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=339089). Ignorance fought! Thank you. I knew that she was very generous with her money, but I was really putting in a nod at Dolly Parton. I do not like her music at all, it is far too twangy for me, but I am still a super big fan. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758.md?page=5)