# How much of an impact could Taylor Swift have on the 2024 election? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 18, 2023, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758 "2023-08-18T14:49:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/161 "2024-09-11T12:46:22Z")
I thought the timing was good, coming right after the debate to help build momentum. And also, the message to get registered is important for young folks who aren’t registered - how much time is left to register? (I know, varies by state …) It’s the start of the university terms, when young people are arriving at college and are in the “To Do list” mode. Swift just reminded them to put another thing on their list. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/162 "2024-09-11T13:38:37Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > That Taylor Swift is a lonely woman that made wrong choices? To be fair, that’s part of her oeuvre. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/163 "2024-09-11T14:28:23Z")
Apparently the Harris campaign didn’t know the endorsement was coming: > [@](#): > > Swift’s endorsement came as a surprise to the Harris campaign, two campaign officials told NBC News. The campaign views the singer’s backing as part of a “decisive victory” for the vice president on the debate stage and speaks to her ability to attract support, one of the officials said. > > Walz appeared to learn about the endorsement during a live post-debate interview with MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow. Walz patted his chest and smiled as Maddow read Swift’s endorsement message. > > “That was eloquent and it was clear,” Walz said, “and that’s the kind of courage we need in America to stand up.” > **[Taylor Swift endorses Kamala Harris](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/taylor-swift-endorses-kamala-harris-rcna170547)** > > The musician's endorsement, which had been eagerly anticipated, was signed "Childless Cat Lady." That must have been a good moment for Harris: She walks off the stage, and her staffers tell her that Taylor Swift just endorsed her. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/164 "2024-09-11T14:44:00Z")
Yeah, if you read recent news about her, there was all sorts of weirdness wondering if Taylor Swift was secretly a Trump fan. For example, from the Daily Fail: > **[Why MAGA Swifties are convinced Taylor is a secret Trump fan](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13835237/maga-taylor-swift-donald-trump-fan-brittany-mahomes.html)** > > Taylor Swift 's ardent fans have been left divided after the popstar was photographed hugging Donald Trump supporter and close friend Brittany Mahomes at the US Open. The Guardian also had an opinion piece about that, but the writer did say she didn’t really think Swift was a Trumper, but that hug of Brittany Mahomes had the rumor mill going. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/165 "2024-09-11T15:01:14Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > The Guardian also had an opinion piece about that, but the writer did say she didn’t really think Swift was a Trumper, but that hug of Brittany Mahomes had the rumor mill going. I didn’t hunt it down (and don’t plan to) but my wife was saying she read a Vanity Fair opinion piece along the same lines and how they hoped Swift’s political endorsements in past elections weren’t just “an era” (see what they did there?), etc. I think a number of people were surprised that there was no immediate official backlas about Trump’s fake AI Swift endorsement but she cited that as part of the reason for her endorsement now. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/166 "2024-09-11T16:23:23Z")
Scot Lehigh, a columnist with the Boston Globe, opined on Harris’s dismantling of Trump in the debate, and one of the comments following the piece was : “Scot, your thoughts on Trump getting “Swift-Voted” last night?” ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/167 "2024-09-11T16:31:41Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Yeah, if you read recent news about her, there was all sorts of weirdness wondering if Taylor Swift was secretly a Trump fan. If you’re Joe or Jane Average who speak with a country twang, it’s a pretty good bet you’re a trumper. If not, most of your neighbors are. Swift has a similar accent and makes C&W-adjacent music. “Therefore she must be one of us.” is probably all the complicated the reasoning behind this manufactured controversy gets. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/168 "2024-09-11T16:49:11Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Swift … makes C&W-adjacent music. It’s been a long time since that was true. She released a folky album during Covid, but her other recent albums have been far closer to dance-pop than C&W. (Ms Akaj is a huge Swiftie.) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/169 "2024-09-11T16:57:09Z")
Thanks for the update. I heard one of hers recently and I suppose from the twangy voice and the “he done left me” lyrics I pegged it as C&W even if the beat, instrumentals, etc. were more pop-ish. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/170 "2024-09-11T17:05:36Z")
I personally don’t recall hearing a single Swift song but this can be significant. I can’t think of a celebrity with a bigger following and many of her fans would certainly give great credence to her opinion. She can mobilize a great many young voters to register and if they’re registering because of her endorsement those are potentially hundreds of thousands if not millions of votes in the Harris column. Poor Donnie, getting two swift kicks in the ass in one night. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/171 "2024-09-11T17:10:02Z")
Trump turned the cheeks? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/172 "2024-09-11T17:10:44Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > but that hug of Brittany Mahomes had the rumor mill going. See, I don’t get that. She gets along (or tries to get along in public) with the family of her boyfriend’s most important coworker. I don’t see how that indicates some kind of conversion. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/173 "2024-09-11T17:35:27Z")
Also by timing her endorsement to after the debate it supports the narrative that she isn’t endorsing Harris because a partisan that is in the tank for the Dems, but instead is making her decision on the evidence of the debate. As a side note, do people here think the wrote the endorsement herself or was it prepared (with her input and final authorization) by a social media staffer? Not that I blame her if the latter was true. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/174 "2024-09-11T18:05:39Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > As a side note, do people here think the wrote the endorsement herself or was it prepared (with her input and final authorization) by a social media staffer? Not that I blame her if the latter was true. I have nothing but speculation, but it is an extremely well-written and precisely parsed note that operates on two levels: 1) a reasoned and clear explanation of who she is voting for and why, while taking the very non-controversial position that folks should do their own research and make up their own minds, while offering resources for voting information; and 2) red meat for Harris supporters with the Vance-trolling sign off (and picture choice). I’m not suggesting that she is not capable of doing that herself, but to me it has the hallmarks of a professional writer. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/175 "2024-09-11T18:07:14Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > I’m not suggesting that she is not capable of doing that herself, but to me it has the hallmarks of a professional writer. Isn’t she a professional writer? Songwriter at least? ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/176 "2024-09-11T18:13:01Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Isn’t she a professional writer? Songwriter at least? Yes, she is a professional songwriter, and a very accomplished one. I still think it likely someone else carefully wrote that post. That is 100% hunch on my part and not intended to be a slight to Swift in any way. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/177 "2024-09-11T18:15:16Z")
I’m sure that she wrote it with the assistance and input from some of her staff. I’m also sure that those are her sincere beliefs. Millions of her fans have turned 18 since 2020. She is getting them engaged. They will register and they will vote. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/178 "2024-09-11T18:25:08Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > I’m sure that she wrote it with the assistance and input from some of her staff. I’m also sure that those are her sincere beliefs. Same here. It’s not a binary thing; she could have at wrote it and run it past some help (which would be the smart thing to do anyway, in my opinion) Swift writes enough digs and jabs that “Crazy Cat Lady” is low-hanging fruit as a troll. ---
**Author:** ![squidfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@squidfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squidfood)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/179 "2024-09-11T18:41:01Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Millions of her fans have turned 18 since 2020. She is getting them engaged. They will register and they will vote. How strong do her Pennsylvania roots hold up these days? Everything helps, but motivating PA does more than motiviating non-swing state fans. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758/180 "2024-09-11T18:53:04Z")
She’s encouraging people to get out and vote, and that’s a good thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-of-an-impact-could-taylor-swift-have-on-the-2024-election/988758.md?page=10)