# How Much State Pride in Your Area? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [May 29, 2016, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978 "2016-05-29T12:06:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978/21 "2016-05-29T16:28:53Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Our state symbol is the Quahog, so not a lot here. Our main source of pride is being the smallest state which allows us to be used as a unit of measure for icebergs and forest fires. I can’t tell you what our state flag looks like, and I doubt many people here could. I think it has a clam and a big blue bug on it. Emphasis added. [RI State Flag](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhode_Island#/media/File:Flag_of_Rhode_Island.svg) No clam. No blue bug. Hope. Well, there’s Hope St in Providence… ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978/22 "2016-05-29T16:29:37Z")
> [@ASGuy](#): > > Up here (about 230 miles N of SF) there is regular talk of breaking California into two states. North Cal (Jefferson) would be from 50 miles north of San Francisco to Oregon. South Cal is the rest. > > It won’t ever happen of course but I believe the rural north part of the state has little pride in being associated with the more urban south. I wouldn’t write off the possibility of a California subdivision at some point. There’s arguments for how it could be beneficial for all the parts (maybe more than two). But I always thought the first fracture would naturally fall somewhere between the Bay Area and the Los Angeles sprawl. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978/23 "2016-05-29T16:39:24Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > I wouldn’t write off the possibility of a California subdivision at some point. There’s arguments for how it could be beneficial for all the parts (maybe more than two). > > But I always thought the first fracture would naturally fall somewhere between the Bay Area and the Los Angeles sprawl. Yeah. As much as I’d hate to give up Paso Robles, they can have San Luis Obispo County and south. Absolutely no way they get Monterey County. You’ll have to pry that from our cold, dead hands. And if Humbolt CO and north want to go their won way… I’m cool with that. We can grow weed just fine here!! ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978/24 "2016-05-29T16:42:49Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > On a more local level, plenty of Chicago pride. Even when things were going better (or less dramatically poorly) you didn’t really see Illinois-centered demonstrations of pride unless it was in the form of saying that Wisconsin/Indiana sucks. And again–compare the Chicago city flag, on purely design grounds, to almost any other North American city flag. It’s just much easier for (legitimate) feelings of local or regional pride to coalesce when there’s a good symbol. I don’t know how much the official Pittsburgh civic flag gets used, but it shares the black and gold scheme of all the major sports teams, and _that_ is certainly an effective symbol. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978/25 "2016-05-29T17:47:08Z")
Roman Mars of the 99 Percent Invisible podcast has gone on at some length about bad civic flag design — Why city flags may be the worst-designed thing you’ve never noticed > **[Why city flags may be the worst-designed thing you've never noticed](https://www.ted.com/talks/roman_mars_why_city_flags_may_be_the_worst_designed_thing_you_ve_never_noticed)** > > Roman Mars is obsessed with flags -- and after you watch this talk, you might be, too. These ubiquitous symbols of civic pride are often designed, well, pretty terribly. But they don't have to be. In this surprising and hilarious talk about... I believe the first time he addressed the issue in his podcast, he talked about the good design and popularity of the Chicago flag—the District of Columbia flag was mentioned as being just as good. In my view, the absolute best flag of any kind used by an American entity is the New Mexico State flag. Perfection. As an Ohioan, I would tend to agree that Ohioans tend to prefer sports iconography, but the swallow-tailed Ohio state burgee is distinctive enough that it has some degree of visibility in the wild. ---
**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978/26 "2016-05-29T19:44:10Z")
We have a completely unremarkable state flag. It is just the State Seal on a blue background. State pride runs pretty deep when you talk about Husker football though. The retired football coach, despite his lack of any apparent political ability was elected to two terms in Congress. In his second run he received 93% of the vote… ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978/27 "2016-05-29T19:50:35Z")
My views on state flags, in detail — [Judging state flags - Cafe Society - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=761173) ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978/28 "2016-05-29T20:00:33Z")
I live in New Mexico. Our state pride consists mostly of “Thank goodness we are not a bunch of G–d— Texans.” ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978/29 "2016-05-29T20:24:59Z")
I live in Florida. We don’t have state pride, we have state “please don’t embarrass us today”. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978/30 "2016-05-29T20:35:18Z")
Yep there isn’t too much state pride here on the Space Coast. On the other hand there is some _American_ flag-waving since so many are in the defense and space industry. At least there is compared to what I’ve seen in the Orlando and Sarasota areas. I’m not sure how it compares to American pride in upstate NY since the absolute number of flags is less but is probably higher per capita 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978/31 "2016-05-29T20:38:48Z")
Quite a bit, and with good reason, Nevada being the best state in the union. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978/32 "2016-05-29T21:45:14Z")
I see a lot of Ohio state shapes because it’s a recognizable shape. But it is mostly paired with CLE (Cleveland) pride logos. Like this: [http://image.spreadshirtmedia.com/image-server/v1/compositions/102343837/views/1,width=190,height=190,appearanceId=120,version=1440417743.png/ohio-heart-cleveland-men-s-t\_design.png](http://image.spreadshirtmedia.com/image-server/v1/compositions/102343837/views/1,width=190,height=190,appearanceId=120,version=1440417743.png/ohio-heart-cleveland-men-s-t_design.png) I want to get an Ohio tattoo some time soon but it will definitely have the northeast heart. We’re all proud Ohioans but let’s make it clear, we ain’t no Cincinnatti. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978/33 "2016-05-29T22:43:50Z")
I grew up in Oregon. We did not have state pride, as such, but I seem to remember a sort of “_fuck off, you can’t even pronounce ‘Oregon’_” mindset. We even seemed to have an intrastate “fuck off” thing going on across the mountains. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978/34 "2016-05-29T23:51:07Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > I see a lot of Ohio state shapes because it’s a recognizable shape. But it is mostly paired with CLE (Cleveland) pride logos. Like this: [http://image.spreadshirtmedia.com/image-server/v1/compositions/102343837/views/1,width=190,height=190,appearanceId=120,version=1440417743.png/ohio-heart-cleveland-men-s-t\_design.png](http://image.spreadshirtmedia.com/image-server/v1/compositions/102343837/views/1,width=190,height=190,appearanceId=120,version=1440417743.png/ohio-heart-cleveland-men-s-t_design.png) I want to get an Ohio tattoo some time soon but it will definitely have the northeast heart. > > We’re all proud Ohioans but let’s make it clear, we ain’t no Cincinnatti. I love the Reds and Cincinnati chili (n.b. spelling), but yeah culturally Cincinnati is in Alabama. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978/35 "2016-05-29T23:52:29Z")
I see more regional that state pride around here. Western Pennsylvania feels its slightly better than say Ohio or West Virginia but most thank their God that we aren’t Philadelphia. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2016, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978/36 "2016-05-30T00:24:38Z")
I love my home state of Kansas, but when I was in the military, all those years ago, I hated telling people where I’m from. It was all “How’s Dorothy?” At least we are proud to be the home of Eisenhower. Sure, he was born in Texas but came to Abilene when he was only a month old. Abilene is where he came “home” and where the museum and presidential library are located. ---
**Author:** ![spamforbrains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@spamforbrains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spamforbrains)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2016, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978/37 "2016-05-30T01:53:27Z")
I’m not really convinced most of my current neighbors even know what state they live in. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978/38 "2016-05-30T02:28:25Z")
> [@jtur88](#): > > I live in Texas. Nuff said? Another Texas resident here. I daresay there’s enough that we could spare some for a few other states with lower self-esteem. . ---
**Author:** ![Reeses\_Monkey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reeses_monkey/32/2885_2.png) [@Reeses\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeses_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2016, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978/39 "2016-05-30T04:08:34Z")
When I mentioned Texas I didn’t just mean the flag. It is a state where you can buy a Texas-shaped version of almost any item you can conceive of. Ice cube molds, wall clocks, cookie cutters, tortilla chips, floor mats (with blubonnets on them, natch.) There are even Texas Passports. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2016, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978/40 "2016-05-30T04:17:49Z")
I don’t think we have a ton of, specifically, _Wisconsin_ pride, but there’s an unbelievable amount of amount of [Green Bay] Packer support as well as probably normal amount of Brewer’s pride (and a even some for the Bucks). But, honestly, you almost can’t drive down a street without seeing a Packers Flag somewhere, at least in my city\*. There’s also a lot of local (Milwaukee) support, but the hipsters are really pushing that and I’m really close to hipster central so seeing Milwaukee t-shirts is pretty common, and it doesn’t hurt that there’s a major university in our city. \*Anytime you read a Cracked style article about Milwaukee, it’ll usually mention at ‘Packer Pride’ somewhere near cheese and beer. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-state-pride-in-your-area/755978.md?page=3)