# How Much To Move Israel-Lock, Stock, and New temple?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 21, 2015, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350 "2015-10-21T13:23:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350/61 "2015-10-22T18:46:06Z")

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> [@Hail\_Ants](#):
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> Saudi Arabia has more than enough wealth to move all the Palestinians lock, stock and barrel to their own homeland.

so they have enough money according to americans to pay for the ethnic cleansing of a whole other people and a new concieved [trail of tears](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears). The americans are so very wonderful in the solutions they concieve for other people.

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> They’d never even consider it because the arabs don’t want peace, they want the Jews off their precious muslim dirt.

What about the Palestinians christian dirt? Or do you think the christian palestian like the occupation? Or perhaps they are not the right ethnicity of the christians? or is it easier to engage in the promotion of a planning of ethnic cleansing if you brown-wash?

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> And Palestine gives their blatantly racist prejudice a level of credibility.

There is a sadly funny irony in a grossly bigoted commentary accusing another people of racist prejudice…

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350/62 "2015-10-22T18:49:04Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> They don’t even serve kangaroo there, the food well known to be the one of the three staples of the Australian diet along with Fosters Lager and shrimp on a popular doll.

All slathered generously with vegemite…

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**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350/63 "2015-10-22T19:01:14Z")

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> [@Ramira](#):
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> What about the Palestinians christian

well, actually, it is the palestinian _Muslims_ who are already doing a pretty good job of ethinc cleansing on their neighbors who are Palestinian Christians.

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> Christians are fleeing the town of Christ’s birth [Bethlehem], and the much-reported hardship that Israel inflicts on residents of the West Bank town has little to do with it. …across the Arab world: rising Islamism pushes non-Muslims away.  
> Islamists frown on real-estate ownership by non-Muslims

> **[Bethlehem’s exodus](https://nypost.com/2009/12/23/bethlehems-exodus/)**
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> The pilgrims will be there as midnight Mass at the Church of the Nativity is again broadcast live around the world this Christmas Eve — but the town of Bethlehem is fast losing its last few y…

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350/64 "2015-10-22T19:11:41Z")

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So you want to white-wash with a NY Post opinion piece by an extreme right anti-peace israeli writing for the NY post?

I can also learn from this same author about the evils of the international deal with the iranians and that the president obama is “throwing israel” to the wolves…

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350/65 "2015-10-22T19:26:43Z")

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All we need to do is wait long enough until they all move to [outer space.](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceJews)

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350/66 "2015-10-22T19:47:46Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> Does it sound as bad as, say, a “Cherokee Nation?”

no. I was married once to a member of a Native American nation. I found the cultural ties to the tribe to be strong and significant. This was independent of the members’ religion, which actually was pretty varied. I may be ignorant of my own culture, but if you remove the religion from what it means to be Jewish, I’m not left with much I care about enough to organize a nation around it. And, as I said before, I’m not comfortable generally organizing a country around a particular religion.

Now, I should point out I guess, I’m not saying Israelis need to think like I think, or that they don’t have a “right” to any kind of country they want. I’m not offended by the existence of a\* Jewish state\*, I was just pointing out I don’t understand the motivation. (not that they should care).

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350/67 "2015-10-22T22:52:01Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> All we need to do is wait long enough until they all move to [outer space.](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceJews)

On Venus, Have We Got a Rabbi!

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**Author:** ![Grestarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grestarian/32/3227_2.png) [@Grestarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grestarian)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350/68 "2015-10-24T05:57:15Z")

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> [@Shakester](#):
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> While we’re getting offended by the OP here, I’d like to register my offence as an Australian at the frankly idiotic notion that some Americans have that Australia is cheap. Clearly you’ve never been anywhere near the place if you imagine that.

My limited understanding of the situation is similar to this. I had a Jewish girlfriend in High School who tried to explain the whole Libya/Egypt/PLO vs Israel issue with, “Either you believe the Jews should have a homeland or they shouldn’t.” and I could only say, “I don’t quite understand why it has to be THERE in particular.”

I understand the preference due to historical ties, but since history records that the Children of Israel left the region and other cultures moved in, it always seemed to me to be somehow wrong for European powers to be giving away somebody else’s land – kinda like me saying “Here, Czarcasm. I’m sorry you dropped your favorite guitar. Take this one from Captain Kirk.”

And for us to do that again, giving bits of Australia away without asking Australians (or the Aborigines), really wouldn’t be any better.

–G!

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350/69 "2015-10-24T06:02:22Z")

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So…you’re willing for all the Anglos to leave Australia and give the land back to the Aborigines?

Pretty damn near every square inch of the earth’s surface was seized by force from someone else living there first.

At least Israel has a fig-leaf of legitimacy, from the British Mandate, as seized from the Turks in war. Britain had pretty much the right to assign the parts where it wanted: that’s how Iraq and Syria and Lebanon and Jordan got their borders.

Messy all around, but, hey, let’s talk about Schleswig/Holstein.

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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350/70 "2015-10-24T12:34:38Z")

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Wow, nobody has provided a cost estimate. I was reminded of how the ancient Egyptian temple of Abu Simbel was cut apart and moved (to keep it from being submerged). Could the same be done with the temple mount? Take a shrine like Joseph’s Tomb (recently the site of commotions). You could easily move such a structure.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350/71 "2015-10-24T12:39:03Z")

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Also Jews have lived in Israel pretty much continuously for thousands of years. Not tons of Jews before migrations from Europe turned from a trickle to a flood after various pogroms in the 19th century, but they were still there. By the time Israel was announced, hundreds of thousands of Jews had been living there for decades or even were born there.

From my understanding, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350/72 "2015-10-24T23:21:11Z")

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> [@ralph124c](#):
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> Wow, nobody has provided a cost estimate. . . .

What were the costs of evacuating Sinai and Gaza?

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350/73 "2015-10-24T23:29:15Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Also Jews have lived in Israel pretty much continuously for thousands of years. …

yes of course.

> [@ralph124c](#):
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> Wow, nobody has provided a cost estimate.

how could anyone, but maybe we can invent some fictional religious efforts and return to the question in 3 years unchanged.

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**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350/74 "2015-10-25T14:57:28Z")

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Just give them them former East Germany and the adjaccent parts of Poland.

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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350/75 "2015-10-25T16:14:45Z")

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How about buying the island of Cyprus? perfect climate, and with miles of ocean around, no terrorist threats. i wonder what it would cost?

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350/76 "2015-10-25T16:44:31Z")

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> [@ralph124c](#):
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> How about buying the island of Cyprus? perfect climate, and with miles of ocean around, no terrorist threats. i wonder what it would cost?

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

I’d add more, but I don’t want to blow my whole smiley allotment on one post.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350/77 "2015-10-25T16:49:51Z")

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Seriously. Haven’t the Cypriots suffered enough?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350/78 "2015-10-25T16:51:45Z")

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> [@ralph124c](#):
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> Wow, nobody has provided a cost estimate. I was reminded of how the ancient Egyptian temple of Abu Simbel was cut apart and moved (to keep it from being submerged). Could the same be done with the temple mount? Take a shrine like Joseph’s Tomb (recently the site of commotions). You could easily move such a structure.

And I’m sure the Palestinians will be just hunky-dorey with one of the most significant landmarks in their faith being chopped up into bits and carried off to another continent.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350/79 "2015-10-25T17:00:01Z")

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Well, since there’s little hope for any sort of irredentism for us German-Irish mutts, I say we call dibs in that floating mass of Nikes and little plastic ducks in the Pacific

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-to-move-israel-lock-stock-and-new-temple/735350/80 "2015-10-25T17:04:38Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> I’d add more, but I don’t want to blow my whole smiley allotment on one post.

I think you strained those eye-rolling muscles there. Could I get you some ice?

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