# How much will President Trump affect Global Warming?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-president-trump-affect-global-warming/771566
**Category:** Great Debates
**Created:** [November 12, 2016, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-president-trump-affect-global-warming/771566 "2016-11-12T01:39:40Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2016, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-president-trump-affect-global-warming/771566/41 "2016-11-14T21:39:45Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> The amount of natural gas leakage is truly astounding, and if it was cheap to fix it would be fixed by now.
Have you met many drillers or visited many wells? This is a situation where I’m surprisingly happy with “Big Oil” (and Gas), but there’s an awful lot of mom and pop in the shale formations. I’m not sure exactly which Paredo we’re dealing with. But I bet there is plenty of combined profit and GHG reduction if we weren’t dealing with so many cowboys.
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### Author:  [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2016, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-president-trump-affect-global-warming/771566/42 "2016-11-14T22:43:07Z")
The only silver lining is that the Trump administration might (_might_) push for nuclear power. It would be ironic if Trump did more for global warming than Obama while denying it exists.
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### Author:  [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2016, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-president-trump-affect-global-warming/771566/43 "2016-11-14T23:19:48Z")
> [@Deeg](#):
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> The only silver lining is that the Trump administration might (_might_) push for nuclear power. It would be ironic if Trump did more for global warming than Obama while denying it exists.
Oh, I like it! Sorta like how secular humanists believe in evolution, but only have one or two kids, whereas religious fundamentalists think evolution is a lie, then have a dozen kids.
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### Author:  [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2016, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-president-trump-affect-global-warming/771566/44 "2016-11-15T01:27:40Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> 1/8 inch per year … up from a 1/16 inch per year … we have plenty of time and in eight years we may well have the Democrats back in power …
Again, rising mean sea levels are the least of the concerns arising from global climate change, nor do effects immediately reverse once some other administration comes about and passes regulations. The longer atmospheric carbon production goes unmitigated, the worse the effects will manifest and the more difficult it will be to achieve any significant reversal.
> [@Deeg](#):
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> The only silver lining is that the Trump administration might (_might_) push for nuclear power. It would be ironic if Trump did more for global warming than Obama while denying it exists.
The only reason the Trump administration will push for nuclear power would be because Donald Trump–I’m sorry, Donald Trump’s “blind trust” managed by his children–gets a cut of the infrastructure work, and if is like every other development project Trump is involved in, it’ll be done at cut rate quality or will go bankrupt while failing to consider the long term ramifications. This is not a silver lining; it’s a uranium hexafluoride milkshake in your cup. Drink up.
Stranger
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### Author:  [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2016, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-president-trump-affect-global-warming/771566/45 "2016-11-15T12:05:26Z")
I drink your milkshake !
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### Author:  [@Gozu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2016, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-president-trump-affect-global-warming/771566/46 "2016-11-15T14:39:13Z")
> [@campp](#):
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> Hell, If I were in Florida, I would be selling real soon and moving north. :eek:
I live in florida ☹ . Miami Beach is already getting flooded every spring. The solution?
> **[Miami Beach's Anti-Flooding Pumps Protect Millions Worth of Mayor Levine's...](https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/miami-beachs-anti-flooding-pumps-protect-millions-worth-of-mayor-levines-properties-8013433)**
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> As King Tides rose in Miami Beach this week, brackish water spilled over sidewalks and drowned docks. There were at least two low-lying spots that stayed remarkably dry, though — the shopping plaza at Sunset Harbor, and the area near 10th and Alton....
Hundreds of millions are going to be spent on building and maintaining this in one city alone. Miami Beach can afford it, but your average small town? ☹
Worse, all those hundreds of millions are only good for a few decades, then it won’t be enough.
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> [@PastTense](#):
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> The renewable industry keeps saying that renewable energy is now cheaper than fossil fuel energy. If that were actually true then Trump’s election would have no impact, since business would automatically go for the cheap option. But lots of us don’t believe this.
It might be cheaper on average, but maybe not at small scale. A battery breakthrough is the missing link right now.
> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> In any event, a wide scale shift to natural gas power has a much better chance of actually reducing CO2 emissions than all the solar freakin’ roadways and solar houses could manage together.
Natural gas is GREAT. What’s not great is methane leaking into the atmosphere. I don’t have numbers but it’s worrisome because methane is way worse for the atmosphere than CO2 as a greenhouse gas. An order of magnitude worse…
> [@septimus](#):
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> ++.
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> My own prediction is that before too long, some attention will switch from temperature and sea level to ocean acidity. The facts of rising temperatures and increased storm intensities will be too clear to deny, and humans will mitigate the heat by installing coolants in the upper atmosphere. But this will have no effect on ocean acidity.
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> The ocean is said to comprise 99% of the biosphere; its use as a source for human food has been increasing. The ocean has plummeted from a pH of 8.2 to 8.1 since the industrial age began and this has had serious effects on ocean ecology. I think typical projections are for acidity to be about 7.75 pH by 2100, and to continue falling after that.
That is very scary. i can’t believe the acidity of the entire ocean rose so much. That’s crazy. People won’t panic because all they see is 0.1 pH and don’t realize how enormous that is, _especially_ in the context of life!
> [@Deeg](#):
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> The only silver lining is that the Trump administration might (_might_) push for nuclear power. It would be ironic if Trump did more for global warming than Obama while denying it exists.
More nuclear would be good. Modern reactors that don’t require active cooling are very safe and much less harmful than fossil fuels without a doubt. I doubt this will happen under president Trump. that would be too nice…I guess. Take a look:
> **[Trump Administration May Be A Nightmare For Nuclear Power](https://energycentral.com/c/ec/trump-administration-may-be-nightmare-nuclear-power)**
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> The instant analysis following Donald Trump’s surprising defeat of Hillary Clinton in the Nov. 8 presidential election was that renewable energy would take a hit and fossil fuels would prosper. I think that is a...
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### Author:  [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2016, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-president-trump-affect-global-warming/771566/47 "2016-11-15T16:08:43Z")
> [@Gozu](#):
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> I live in florida ☹ . Miami Beach is already getting flooded every spring … [snip]
How’d’ya fare yesterday? We had a spring tide and perigee at the same time. Generally this is when we see the highest tides, although this might not matter at Miami Beach explicitly.
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### Author:  [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2016, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-president-trump-affect-global-warming/771566/48 "2016-11-17T14:40:29Z")
I do not believe that the amount of hot air that Trump could theoretically emit has been calculated.
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### Author:  [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-president-trump-affect-global-warming/771566/49 "2016-11-17T19:31:33Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> There’s always the chance Nuclear Winter will be a game-changer.
Global Thermonuclear War is an idea whose time has come, and a great solution to the problems of Climate Change.
Reduce the planetary population by 2 or 4 billion humans. There will still be plenty of them left. Move the technology and the power needed to support it to low energy, innovative, solutions. Stone knives and bear skins. Because, if you are honest about it, our insatiable need for bigger, better, faster, is the engine driving the power demands that are at the root of the problem. We are the problem, and everything we want adds to the problem.
Too many people, too much food and power needed to support them, too many negative by-products created by them. That is what is driving the climate changes.
Nuclear winter is just an added by-product. The benefits will be HUGE! Bigger than his hands!
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