# How much will the ABs win the World Cup by?

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**Created:** [October 17, 2011, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-the-abs-win-the-world-cup-by/599890 "2011-10-17T06:40:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-the-abs-win-the-world-cup-by/599890/1 "2011-10-17T06:40:40Z")

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Australia got what they deserved, now its onwards to those damnable frogs for the final - how much will we win by?

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-the-abs-win-the-world-cup-by/599890/2 "2011-10-17T18:26:13Z")

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Tell us Bengangmo, just how big is that tiny little seed of doubt? Will it sprout to Kauri-size if you don’t crush the French in the first half?

😃

I’m almost glad that England haven’t progressed, they can’t hurt me any longer. Hope is a terrible thing, certainty can be even worse.

FWIW, 27-12 to the All Blacks.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-the-abs-win-the-world-cup-by/599890/3 "2011-10-17T18:34:50Z")

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Les Bleus could only beat Wales by one point even though they were playing 15 v 14 for more than half of the game and even though Wales missed six out of seven kicks at goal. They lost in the group round to Tonga, which may not actually be a country. So if NZ is ever going to stop being to rugby what South Africa is to cricket, they’re going to have to do it now.

The NZeds by 20, or France by 1.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-the-abs-win-the-world-cup-by/599890/4 "2011-10-17T20:26:34Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> Tell us Bengangmo, just how big is that tiny little seed of doubt? Will it sprout to Kauri-size if you don’t crush the French in the first half?
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> 😃
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> I’m almost glad that England haven’t progressed, they can’t hurt me any longer. Hope is a terrible thing, certainty can be even worse.
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> FWIW, 27-12 to the All Blacks.

I saw the England team at Heathrow a week ago today as they returned from NZ. They were all athletic, but not particularly large, until this absolute gargantuan of a man came off the plane. I can’t find a website that gives height and weight of the team. In the US, height and weight are listed for all athletes.

Anyway, does anyone know who this guy was?

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-the-abs-win-the-world-cup-by/599890/5 "2011-10-17T20:39:25Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> I saw the England team at Heathrow a week ago today as they returned from NZ. They were all athletic, but not particularly large, until this absolute gargantuan of a man came off the plane. I can’t find a website that gives height and weight of the team. In the US, height and weight are listed for all athletes.
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> Anyway, does anyone know who this guy was?

Typically the locks are the big lads so it may have been [Tom Palmer](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Palmer_(rugby_union)) or [Simon Shaw](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Shaw), both around 6’ 8"

Or it may have been “Ferengi” himself, [Martin Johnson](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Johnson_(rugby_union)).

If it was him, you’ll remember…he LOOMS, and not just because of his size.

[Here’s a site](http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/aug/22/england-squad-rugby-world-cup) that might give you a hint for other suspects.

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-the-abs-win-the-world-cup-by/599890/6 "2011-10-17T20:40:51Z")

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You can see all the World Cup squads [here](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Rugby_World_Cup_squads), but that list doesn’t show heights and weights.

My guess is you saw a lock (or possibly a prop) and a quick check of the English locks makes me think you saw [Simon Shaw](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Shaw).

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-the-abs-win-the-world-cup-by/599890/7 "2011-10-17T20:46:40Z")

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> [@lisiate](#):
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> You can see all the World Cup squads [here](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Rugby_World_Cup_squads), but that list doesn’t show heights and weights.
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> My guess is you saw a lock (or possibly a prop) and a quick check of the English locks makes me think you saw [Simon Shaw](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Shaw).

I think that’s the guy.

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-will-the-abs-win-the-world-cup-by/599890/8 "2011-10-18T07:43:42Z")

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I’m hoping three tries vs a penalty in the first half, then ride on the laurels in the second with tit for tat scoring.

And I just found out I will be away from home for the final - probably have to watch it amongst non drinking soccer fans.

Sometimes life sucks!
