# How not to react after you pull off a baby's head

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**Created:** [August 15, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-not-to-react-after-you-pull-off-a-babys-head/988607 "2023-08-15T14:44:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dark\_Sponge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dark_sponge/32/121_2.png) [@Dark\_Sponge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dark_Sponge)\
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Thankfully, they eventually changed the process to use an photo printer which could print directly from the digital camera’s storage card.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2024, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-not-to-react-after-you-pull-off-a-babys-head/988607/82 "2024-02-09T00:01:16Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> Mom said her classmate came in upset, saying, “They’re fucking their kids, they’re fucking their dogs, they’re fucking their vacuum cleaners!”

If they stuck to vacuum cleaners, the whole world would be a much better place.

  

I’ve told this story before.  
One of my younger brothers majored in Criminal Justice. He never went into that line of work thank goodness. He spent one undergrad summer interning at the county prosecutor’s office of the medium sized city/county where the university was located.

I met up with him after that summer while I was in USAF. I asked him what he learned from his time at the prosecutor’s office

> [@LSLBro](#):
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> Statistically speaking, incest is normal human behavior.

Oh shit! 😬

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2024, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-not-to-react-after-you-pull-off-a-babys-head/988607/83 "2024-02-09T00:09:34Z")

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Back when I worked at the big hospital, which had a psychiatric unit, I was never scared going into the adult wards (one locked, the other unlocked) but I WAS scared more than once in the children’s wing, which was locked.

I saw evidence of children there as young as FIVE YEARS OLD.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2024, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-not-to-react-after-you-pull-off-a-babys-head/988607/84 "2024-02-09T00:26:05Z")

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It seems to be suggested that incest is rampant in Arkansas (maybe generally the South)

I’ve not seen or heard of it except in 2 _maybe_ ways.  
My Daddy’s GrandFather and his Twin(identical )married Identical Twin sisters. (The pairs were cousins as well)  
The story is they lived altogether in a two house compound. About 16 kids. Both mothers were called Momma by all the kids. Same with the fathers. I kinda thought that was a sketchy situation. No future generations have missing fingers or anything. Well, except Uncle Pete who had some chopped off by a sawmill blade. And he was untrustworthy with the young kids in the family at gatherings.

#2. there was a girl who went to school with my girls who had a baby in 9th grade. Rumor was it was by her Dad. He went to jail shortly after the baby was born. The child wasn’t at all okay. I’m not sure if it lived.

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2024, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-not-to-react-after-you-pull-off-a-babys-head/988607/85 "2024-02-09T05:12:41Z")

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I’m sorry to say that incest, or, to be more precise, criminal sexual abuse of children, is common everywhere. I was in a school long enough that when I hear about parents wanting to be party to their children’s discussions with counselors, I just assume there’s something truly awful going on in the home that they’re trying to hide.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2024, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-not-to-react-after-you-pull-off-a-babys-head/988607/86 "2024-02-09T05:32:27Z")

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Well, I’m not so sure about that. I was at all my kids counselor visits. Maybe not participating but there. I was the helicopter mom everyone hates.

I think maybe when they started school I was worried they might say I cursed. And dumb stuff like that. I got over it.  
But I was still keeping tabs through highschool. I thought it was my obligation.

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2024, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-not-to-react-after-you-pull-off-a-babys-head/988607/87 "2024-02-09T05:39:47Z")

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The counselor visits I’m thinking of are the ones where the kid visits a counselor about troubles they’re having. The anti-public school groups that are busy trying to ban books also generally want parents to be informed whenever their child sees a counselor, and abuse is the #1 reason counselors are pushing back.

(And the school staff knows even the good parents curse. We all curse.)

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2024, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-not-to-react-after-you-pull-off-a-babys-head/988607/88 "2024-02-09T06:27:38Z")

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Hell yeah. 😉

When Son-of-a-wrek (aka class clown) was in highschool I visited the counselors and principals office many many times. I liked the counselor appreciated Sons humor.

He was commonly stifling laughing while trying to dole out detention punishment.

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**Post date:** [June 21, 2025, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-not-to-react-after-you-pull-off-a-babys-head/988607/89 "2025-06-21T00:45:57Z")

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I think it’s the same case. Couple awarded 2.5 million from the doctor who did the autopsy. Case against the hospital still outstanding.

Case against the hospital is messy, and I don’t automatically assume that the hospital was at fault. But case against the autopsy doctor was undefended, after he _posted the autopsy video on Instagram_.

That’s insane. I mean, literally insane: I don’t have any other explanation for that behavior.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2025, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-not-to-react-after-you-pull-off-a-babys-head/988607/90 "2025-06-21T01:45:10Z")

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Yep, same couple.

> **[A Doctor Posted Video of Their Decapitated Baby. They Were Awarded $2.5 Million.](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/20/us/georgia-decapitated-baby-lawsuit.html)**
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> A Georgia couple hired a pathologist to do an autopsy after their first child died during childbirth. They accused him of posting images of the baby on Instagram without their consent.

> Dr. Gates never responded to the lawsuit, which was filed in State Court in Fulton County, Ga., leading to the court to issue a “default posture,” according to Ira Livnat, Dr. Gates’s lawyer. That meant that the case was automatically resolved in favor of the plaintiffs.

And yet

> In a post on Facebook that has since been deleted, Dr. Gates said that the outcome of the case was “a complete miscarriage of justice” and that he intended to file an appeal.

1.) Maybe he shouldn’t have tried the “ignore the case and hope it goes away” legal strategy?

2.) Maybe he should have came up with a better word than “miscarriage”?

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> 1.) Maybe he shouldn’t have tried the “ignore the case and hope it goes away” legal strategy?

But that worked so well for Alex Jones, right?

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-not-to-react-after-you-pull-off-a-babys-head/988607/92 "2025-06-30T03:09:29Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> > [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> > 99% pleasure, 1% panic and despair.
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> My mother was an RN and tough as nails. No compassion no pity. She lasted in the NICU six weeks.

Somewhere around…1987 or so I worked on a job on the Burn Ward at Denver Children’s Hospital. It was an industrial video for what was, at the time, a revolutionary device: synthetic skin grown in sheets made out of shark cartilage. It was called [Biobrane](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7673314/) and has become the worldwide gold standard.Apparently they’d licked the entire rejection issue and this stuff worked quite well.

We shot for 4 days. It wrecked me. I’d volunteered for 3 YEARS as a teenager on a Peds ward. This was before Hospice, so I watched a few slow deaths happen week by week. Nothing in my experiences had prepared me for what I saw.

Now that I think about it, my time as an E.M.T. didn’t expose me to quite that level of trauma. Close, in a few cases, but videotaping a teenager who was still alive with full-thickness burns over 70% of his body who wasn’t being told his kid sister died when Daddy ran to them, threw a bucket of gasoline on them and lit them up because they knew he’d just give up what little will to live he still had…that was more than I could process.

Qadgop, for many years I’ve respected and admired the work moments you have shared. Moreso now. Brutal, just brutal. We do what we can…

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