# How often do you masturbate?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 28, 2006, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533 "2006-06-28T19:11:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kevegan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e68b1a/32.png) [@kevegan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevegan)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533/201 "2006-07-09T02:08:28Z")

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[QUOTE=WhyNot]  
Retrograde ejaculation is taught in some Eastern Philosophies so that men don’t waste their “qi” or life-force.  
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Qieesh! Still goes down the tubes, one way or another.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533/202 "2006-07-09T03:42:44Z")

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[QUOTE=kevegan]  
Qieesh! Still goes down the tubes, one way or another.  
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Right, but it’s orgasm without visible or palpable ejaculation, so I believe it fits the criteria \*\*Telperian \*\*set: “orgasms without shooting”. Your assertion that “Any man who says he can come without shooting … is just trying to get a rise out of you.” is incorrect.

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**Author:** ![kevegan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e68b1a/32.png) [@kevegan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevegan)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533/203 "2006-07-09T03:49:01Z")

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[QUOTE=WhyNot]  
Right, but it’s orgasm without visible or palpable ejaculation, so I believe it fits the criteria \*\*Telperian \*\*set: “orgasms without shooting”. Your assertion that “Any man who says he can come without shooting … is just trying to get a rise out of you.” is incorrect.  
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It’s palpable okay - just goes backwards and inwards rather than forwards and upwards. Then you pee it out, at which point it becomes visible (to be sure, as visible as the head on top of the Guinness), and out with the urine goes all your precious qi.

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**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533/204 "2006-07-09T06:10:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Telperien]  
What he did was press on his perineum to keep himself from ejaculating; it does sound like it could be bad for you, not to mention the pee thing. I bet that was a weird surprise.  
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Have tried that before. Orgasm still happened, though not so enjoyable as usual. It was, however, dry. Didn’t allow me multiple orgasms, and I didn’t notice the “pee thing,” though I don’t remember particularly checking. I haven’t done that in years, however, because the orgasm isn’t as good and it’s a little uncomfortable.

Just my $.02, and waaaaay TMI.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533/205 "2006-07-09T07:12:03Z")

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[QUOTE=appleciders]  
Have tried that before. Orgasm still happened, though not so enjoyable as usual. It was, however, dry. Didn’t allow me multiple orgasms, and I didn’t notice the “pee thing,” though I don’t remember particularly checking. I haven’t done that in years, however, because the orgasm isn’t as good and it’s a little uncomfortable.

Just my $.02, and waaaaay TMI.  
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Ditto, to the word. Good for mess control and very little else. This technique was used for contraception under the name of _coitus saxonicus_, supposedly 'cos the Saxons used it, though it’s far from sure-fire for obvious reasons.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533/206 "2006-07-09T15:55:05Z")

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[QUOTE=kevegan]  
It’s palpable okay - just goes backwards and inwards rather than forwards and upwards. Then you pee it out, at which point it becomes visible (to be sure, as visible as the head on top of the Guinness), and out with the urine goes all your precious qi.  
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Geez, all \*\*telperian \*\*wanted to know was if “dry ejaculation” was plausible. I was trying to be all delicate and ladylike. Let me try again:

With retrograde ejaculation, there’s no spooge. No “shooting”. No mess, no muss, no fuss. No seed is spilled, no jism on the sheets, no foam where she roams, no pancake batter to be beaten, no tadpoles to corral, no cum to come, no cream to whip, no man milk to slurp, no drizzlin’ drizz, dick dreck, penis pudding or man chowder.

And no clean up for me.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533/207 "2006-07-09T15:57:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Misnomer]  
here can’t _possibly_ be such a thing as male orgasm without ejaculation? I mean, it’s one thing to not be able to prove it on a messageboard, but I see no reason to assume that any man who claims that it happens _must_ be lying. One guy says it’s possible, another says it isn’t: why is the first one automatically wrong?  
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Because it’s a physiological impossibility.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533/208 "2006-07-09T15:59:32Z")

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[QUOTE=WhyNot]  
Geez, all \*\*telperian \*\*wanted to know was if “dry ejaculation” was plausible. I was trying to be all delicate and ladylike. Let me try again:

With retrograde ejaculation, there’s no spooge. No “shooting”. No mess, no muss, no fuss. No seed is spilled, no jism on the sheets, no foam where she roams, no pancake batter to be beaten, no tadpoles to corral, no cum to come, no cream to whip, no man milk to slurp, no drizzlin’ drizz, dick dreck, penis pudding or man chowder.

And no clean up for me.  
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There’s still an ejaculation, though, so it’s not really “dry.”

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**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533/209 "2006-07-09T16:01:08Z")

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[QUOTE=WhyNot]  
Geez, all \*\*telperian \*\*wanted to know was if “dry ejaculation” was plausible. I was trying to be all delicate and ladylike. Let me try again:

With retrograde ejaculation, there’s no spooge. No “shooting”. No mess, no muss, no fuss. No seed is spilled, no jism on the sheets, no foam where she roams, no pancake batter to be beaten, no tadpoles to corral, no cum to come, no cream to whip, no man milk to slurp, no drizzlin’ drizz, dick dreck, penis pudding or man chowder.

And no clean up for me.  
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If nothing else, this thread was worth it for that post alone. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533/210 "2006-07-09T18:20:20Z")

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[QUOTE=WhyNot]  
Geez, all \*\*telperian \*\*wanted to know was if “dry ejaculation” was plausible. I was trying to be all delicate and ladylike. Let me try again:

With retrograde ejaculation, there’s no spooge. No “shooting”. No mess, no muss, no fuss. No seed is spilled, no jism on the sheets, no foam where she roams, no pancake batter to be beaten, no tadpoles to corral, no cum to come, no cream to whip, no man milk to slurp, no drizzlin’ drizz, dick dreck, penis pudding or man chowder.

And no clean up for me.  
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Hee! You didn’t need to try to be delicate, though. I think I could have handled it 😃

The man milk bit really cracked me up, though, as I was talking about blow jobs not ten minutes ago.

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**Author:** ![MacGyverInSeattle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@MacGyverInSeattle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacGyverInSeattle)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533/211 "2006-07-09T19:26:01Z")

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Several things to say about non-squirting orgasms.  
But first: 45 yo straight male used to be 2-5 times a day, then I got married and down to 1-2 a day then the kids grew up and it was down to once a day then I got divorced and it is back up to 1-3 times a day.

On the hi-jack: I sometimes wear a tight ring around the base so there is no mess for the GF, It all comes out when I take the ring off, not when I pee, nothing in the bladder, the internal tubing just kind of stretches out.

A few weeks ago the GF and I were having a discussion about my level of interest in sex and she said “If I asked you to lick me three times a day, you would soon get tired of it.”  
I took her up on the offer and have been keeping up so far. I find, after the act, I have kind of leaked clear lube but not actually “made the mess” but I find I am just as satisfied as if I did.

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**Author:** ![kimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@kimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kimera)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533/212 "2006-07-10T06:13:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
Because it’s a physiological impossibility.  
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I have been told by two different professors of human sexuality at two different universities that orgasm and ejaculation are two different things and one can occur without the other. Dry orgasms are most common amoung prepubescent boys, but it is not unheard of for them to occur in healthy adult males.

Online cites: [here](http://menshealth.about.com/od/sexualhealth/a/male_orgasm.htm) and [here](http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/2935.html).

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**Author:** ![kevegan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e68b1a/32.png) [@kevegan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevegan)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533/213 "2006-07-10T06:19:18Z")

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Depends on how “orgasm” is defined. Much like “g-spot”. The confusion keeps the sexologists busy, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533/214 "2006-07-10T06:21:58Z")

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[QUOTE=kimera]  
I have been told by two different professors of human sexuality at two different universities that orgasm and ejaculation are two different things and one can occur without the other. Dry orgasms are most common amoung prepubescent boys, but it is not unheard of for them to occur in healthy adult males.

Online cites: [here](http://menshealth.about.com/od/sexualhealth/a/male_orgasm.htm) and [here](http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/2935.html).  
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I didn’t say they weren’t two different things. I know they’re two different things. but in a male who is past puberty, you can’t have an orgasm without an ejaculation. Your cites don’t support you, by the way. They talk about ejaculation without orgasm, “dry” orgasms in prepubescent boys, delayed ejaculations in adult males and (rarely) continued orgasm _after_ ejaculation in adult males. None of those things really amount to dry orgasms in adult males. There’s always some kind of spewage,

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**Author:** ![Webner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/0ea827/32.png) [@Webner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Webner)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533/215 "2006-07-10T14:15:12Z")

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About 2 times a day.

Im a 20-year-old heterosexual single male.

Sometimes theres a week when I feel extra horny and will do it 3, 4 or even 5 times a day.

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**Author:** ![kimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@kimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kimera)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533/216 "2006-07-10T18:47:29Z")

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From [about.com](http://about.com)

> [@](#):
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> The male orgasm is not just about ejaculation. It is possible to have an orgasm without ejaculation.

How does that not support my argument? Although it is very uncommon, and normally occurs because of retrograde ejaculation, that is not true of all cases

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> [@](#):
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> Although most people usually use the terms orgasm and ejaculation interchangeably when referring to men, the two are, in fact, distinct processes. It is entirely possible, though uncommon, for men to have orgasms with no ejaculation, or even more rarely, ejaculation without orgasm.

[sexualhealth.com](http://sexualhealth.com)

> [@](#):
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> One can have an ejaculation without having an orgasm and vice versa.

Futhermore, I don’t see what is wrong with characterizing orgasms that occur without ejaculation before a final orgasm with ejaculation as “dry” orgasms. They certainly can not be considered “wet.” Some men naturally have this ability and will experience one or more dry orgasms before a final wet orgasm (unless arousal goes away and then they never have the wet orgasm).

Since you are being stubborn about this, where is your cite that adult men can not have dry orgasms without it being an underlying medical condition or retrograde ejaculation?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533/217 "2006-07-10T19:04:51Z")

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Retrograde ejaculations are still ejaculations. Ejaculations which occur seconds before or after the sensation of orgasm are still ejaculations. You didn’t provide any links for your cites so I can’t evaluate them for context or accuracy but I doubt they’re any more valid than your previous cites.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533/218 "2006-07-10T19:06:15Z")

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> Futhermore, I don’t see what is wrong with characterizing orgasms that occur without ejaculation before a final orgasm with ejaculation

This doesn’t happen. Men cannot have muliple orgasms.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533/219 "2006-07-10T19:07:28Z")

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Multiple.

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**Author:** ![kimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@kimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kimera)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-often-do-you-masturbate/362533/220 "2006-07-10T19:28:05Z")

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First of all, I never said that retrograde ejaculations are not ejacutations. I am speaking about dry orgasms where there is absolutely no ejaculation. From the [sexualhealth website](http://www.sexualhealth.com/question.php?Action=read&question_id=2196&channel=1&topic=19)

> [@](#):
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> Orgasm and ejaculation are, indeed, two seperate things. It just happens that, for most men - most of the time - they occur together. That’s why you hear the terms orgasm and ejaculation used interchangably. Basically, an orgasm is related more to the intensely pleasurable feelings that one experiences when reaching a “peak” level of sexual pleasure. Ejaculation is the physical propulsion of semen from the urethra. One can have an ejaculation without having an orgasm and vice versa.

Unfortunately, I don’t have any of my human sexuality text books on hand, but I will have access to one tomorrow. I can give a cite from it then.

[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
This doesn’t happen. Men cannot have muliple orgasms.  
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That is untrue. Some men are able to have multiple orgasms. [Dr. Marian Dunn](http://www.bettersex.com/t-absi-advisory.aspx#Marian) did a study on men who are able to do this. She found that while some men were able to ejaculate with each multiple orgasm, other men had dry orgasms until a final wet one. I was unable to find her study online, but you can read details about it in the book “Guide to Getting it on” by Paul Joannides and a few snipits of an interview she did [here](http://health.yahoo.com/topic/sexualhealth/overview/article/pt/Psychology_Today_articles_pto-19991101-000038)

Furthermore, I used to be in a relationship with a guy who could have multiple orgasms if sufficiently excited enough.

Again, where are your cites for all of this?

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