There are parties and there are parties.
Some could be fun. Maybe a bit risky.
Some are illegal.
I have it on good authority based on this documentary that partying kids were doing crimes as long ago as 1979.
I have heard that even before that, young people used to go to underground clubs where they imbibed liquor and listened to jazz music.
The unique issue for the day isn’t that people are partying and imbibing. It’s the speed and and size of the disturbances which are fueled by rapidly shared social media posts. I was working at the local fireworks on July 4th and heard the local police dealing with a pop up party happening at the same time. On a quiet side street not meant for heavy traffic close to 1,000 people showed up to a party advertised with a DJ and a pool. The organizers didn’t expect that response but once it got spread on social media it was out of their hands. This was on a piece of property that was maybe an 1/8 of an acre. All the surrounding streets were blocked. Various calls of disorderly and illegal activities happening on neighboring properties came in. Eventually it was shut down but it took police from multiple towns to come in and help. It didn’t make the news because it was handled with relatively few problems. This is happening a lot and all over. Only when it goes really bad does it make the news.
That’s what camera’s are for. Now you’re lying to a police officer.
Arrest them for trespassing and theft of services.
I’m in Denmark right now. And at lunch, people were complaining about parties with tons of kids who were noisy and defecated in inappropriate places. “The trees grew very well after that, but it wasn’t nice being there”.
Are there guidelines for organizers? If you want people to come to your underground rave (or even completely legal party), you need to advertise it. How do you keep 10x as many people as you have capacity for from showing up? Presumably you have access control and not just letting them all in, but now the crowds are there and this is a less than ideal situation.
There was an incident in the eastern Bay Area yesterday.
Teen gathering at Brentwood mall ends in violence, arrests
From the article: Brentwood Police say that hundreds of teens gathered at local shopping centers on Friday, leading to multiple fights that ultimately left many businesses locking their doors and closing early. Officers arrested five teens.
This presumes a whole lot more thought and organization on the part of the people “planning” these things than likely actually occurs. They are likely not professional event planners/organizers, they’re likely just young people with social media accounts and ideas, and they almost undoubtedly are not distributing tickets or anything like that.
They undoubtedly don’t give any thought to things like, “what if we expect 100 people, and 1000 show up?”
I was 15 years old in 1979, and I sure am glad there was no such thing as livestreaming back then.
(That’s also the only Pumpkins song I’ve ever liked.)
I remember when one of my college roommates went to a local bar to see a band, and the fire marshall showed up. Not sure how they found out this place was over capacity.
This made me think about how a lot of the towns at the Jersey shore have been cracking down on teens because of drinking and behaviors. I know some towns are enforcing curfews and kids under 17 will be taken in and parents will need to pick them up at the police station. Some are also imposing possible fines on the parents and charges against the kids. I have no idea how that’s working out, I haven’t been to the shore recently, but it made me think of what Beck was saying in an earlier post, it starts with the parents and if they aren’t going to do it, there’s a damn good chance the police will. I agree 100% with Beck.
This topic also got me thinking about an incident, I’m going to say a year or two ago. Sorry I’m so vague, but it wasn’t near here (lost that detail, too) about a bunch of teens found out a family in a very well to do area was going to be away. I don’t think these kids were even from the area. Anyway, they broke in and threw a wild party. The damages were horrendous. I believe some of them were arrested. Does that ring any bells for anyone? Like I said, I don’t recall the specifics to even try and give it a decent search.
…so my suggestion to you would be that there is more going on here than meets the eye.
https://news.wttw.com/2025/06/18/chicago-s-snap-curfew-and-how-approved-ordinance-could-affect-teens
So I’ve just discovered “youth escort policies.” That in some places young people can’t even go to the mall without an adult escort. Is it any wonder when you close down the places that youths used to go, have curfews, and disproportionately target Black and people of colour for harassment and arrest, that they might look to “safety in numbers?” Because:
This is probably part of the point. “Black people taking over the pool at a mostly white town” suggests maybe that Black youths have problems accessing that pool. Something that in America, obviously has no historical precedent. /s
From Wikipedia:
Its hard to know the specifics of what happened in the case of the OP because they didn’t provide a cite.
But this isn’t a thing you can look at in isolation. You can’t just treat the symptoms without addressing the cause. The last thing communities need to do is be “outraged”. A “few more citations” aren’t going to change a thing.
Unfortunately, this isn’t something that can happen in a society where a militarised police force is seen as normal, where ICE are literally disappearing people off the streets. The response to “youth takeovers” will be to crack down on youth takeovers, which will only result in young people of colour doing something else that will get the community outraged.
We don’t hold the natural and understandable fibs of children to the same standard as adults. We don’t expect our police to watch possible videos of possible gatecrashing, all while, what, holding scores in custody. (Nor do we install many cameras at public pools to begin with).
Besides, I was an invited guest at the pool for Tabitha’s party.
Your argument seems to be “They can’t do anything because the perpetrators will just say ‘It wasn’t me’”
That’s every crime.
It’s not a question of are there pools in black communities but why aren’t there enough life guards hired to keep the pools open.
“The most public pools in Chicago are located in Black wards. A Crusader analysis of Park District data reveals a total of 45 indoor and outdoor pools in Black wards on the South and West sides.”
Again, there’s no crime to investigate, no suspects to question, no victim statements to take. This isn’t MY opinion, take it from the police. They handled the firework as needed and sent everyone else home.
I heard there was a graduation party at the pool and me & Stacy went. We saw a bunch of kids from school and went in.
Parties happen. Daddy, chill.
This sounds annoying.
I’m reminded of when I asked my doctor about a particular treatment, and he said that he’s not generally in favor of recommending a treatment that can destroy your liver just to correct a minor annoyance. So too with this sort of annoyance, as long as they’re just being annoying, just entering where they haven’t paid, and “taking over” space where others would like to be, the response should be similarly mild. The police will be called, they will show up with some measure of force, and will rightfully ask the teens to disperse.
The teens then need to disperse when asked, you had your fun, it’s time to go, and the world goes back to how it was before. Caught with an illegal substance, item or drinking underage… nobody made you bring that stuff, you may be in trouble and that’s OK.
If we’re talking about road racing, threatening others, property damage, now we’re into a different category of issue, one that endangers lives, safety, and property all on its own.
Yes I remember. I think we had a thread on the SDMB about it. I can’t find it though.
I tried using Google and AI to find out some info about such a party and came up with tons of hits for people renting out AirBnBs and throwing parties that got out of hand.
I think the one you’re thinking of had some sort of controversy attached or a court case, so it warranted further discussion.
Theft of services is not a fib. It’s against the law.