# How perception of Christian persecution in America could become self-fulfilling **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 2, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-perception-of-christian-persecution-in-america-could-become-self-fulfilling/929540 "2021-01-02T20:43:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-perception-of-christian-persecution-in-america-could-become-self-fulfilling/929540/41 "2021-01-06T14:17:18Z")
Well the minority was the one in power; you could have included Syria in that list too. So maybe “the majority” is misleading and we mean just “the powerful”. If Obama had installed POC at all levels of government and given them seized private enterprises, then POC would be the powerful despite being the minority. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-perception-of-christian-persecution-in-america-could-become-self-fulfilling/929540/42 "2021-01-06T16:00:02Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Actively practicing Xians are decreasingly in the majority. And in some parts of the country they are a minority; just the largest single one. > > Just like with whiteness, the best way for a fading majority of Xians to avoid sealing their fate to be one of endless retribution, is to treat the current minorities less beastly than they have been treated heretofore. I don’t see white supremacy and religious supremacy as being distinct. Though the overlap is less than 100% in terms of actual identity and practice, together they’re a slim majority. That’s why white supremacists and white evangelicals seem to have a mutual neutrality pact (when they aren’t openly allied). Though they may disdain one another’s tactics and aesthetics, they understand that their interests are mostly shared and aligned. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-perception-of-christian-persecution-in-america-could-become-self-fulfilling/929540/43 "2021-01-06T16:03:54Z")
Another reason for some of the persecution mindset is that it lets one off the hook for bad behavior. If people agree with you, then you’re right; if people disagree with you, then it still means you’re right. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-perception-of-christian-persecution-in-america-could-become-self-fulfilling/929540/44 "2021-01-06T16:07:27Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Though they may disdain one another’s tactics and aesthetics, they understand that their interests are mostly shared and aligned. Agree completely. ---
**Author:** ![eburacum\_45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eburacum_45/32/3385_2.png) [@eburacum\_45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eburacum_45)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-perception-of-christian-persecution-in-america-could-become-self-fulfilling/929540/45 "2021-01-06T16:07:36Z")
Do you really think that Christians and /or white people will be in the majority in the USA in 100 years time? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-perception-of-christian-persecution-in-america-could-become-self-fulfilling/929540/46 "2021-01-06T16:15:43Z")
> [@eburacum\_45](#): > > Do you really think that Christians and /or white people will be in the majority in the USA in 100 years time?- Yes, I think that’s likely. The population of the United States is currently 73% white and 71% Christian. For those percentages to drop down to just 50% (at which point they would still be the largest race and religion) would require over sixty million people to disappear. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-perception-of-christian-persecution-in-america-could-become-self-fulfilling/929540/47 "2021-01-06T16:29:19Z")
Non-Hispanic whites are only 60%, and dropping quickly. In 100 years, about 99% of the current people will have disappeared, and young people aren’t taking up religion all that much. ---
**Author:** ![eburacum\_45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eburacum_45/32/3385_2.png) [@eburacum\_45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eburacum_45)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-perception-of-christian-persecution-in-america-could-become-self-fulfilling/929540/48 "2021-01-06T16:29:30Z")
People who are born Christian do not necessarily remain Christian. In the UK several surveys indicate that the majority of people consider themselves to be non-religious, which was not the case 100 years ago. Almost nobody goes to church, except for expensive weddings. Nobody had to ‘disappear’ in order for this to happen. The demographic composition of the US is changing too.The genetic concept of race is very complex, but in 100 years time the majority of the US population could (and should) become much more integrated. Nobody has to ‘disappear’ to make the population more mixed. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-perception-of-christian-persecution-in-america-could-become-self-fulfilling/929540/49 "2021-01-06T16:38:18Z")
> [@eburacum\_45](#): > > Do you really think that Christians and /or white people will be in the majority in the USA in 100 years time? It’s important to remember that whiteness is nothing more than a legal fiction created by the powerful to rationalize enslavement of the less powerful. Originally it applied to protestant Europeans, but the definition has expanded as needed to include Irish, Italians, and more people of mixed heritage. So what I’m saying is that, regardless of ancestral origins, it’s still going to be very popular to call oneself white in 100 years time, though many of those people won’t look as we’d expect today. As long as people enjoy oppressing and enslaving each other, there’ll be lots of people going through the motions to become a model minority, and eventually they’ll be accepted as “white”. ---
**Author:** ![eburacum\_45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eburacum_45/32/3385_2.png) [@eburacum\_45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eburacum_45)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-perception-of-christian-persecution-in-america-could-become-self-fulfilling/929540/50 "2021-01-06T16:49:10Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > So what I’m saying is that, regardless of ancestral origins, it’s still going to be very popular to call oneself white in 100 years time, though many of those people won’t look as we’d expect today. This is exactly the problem, and the best way to avoid it would be to expose this as the delusion it surely is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-perception-of-christian-persecution-in-america-could-become-self-fulfilling/929540.md?page=2)