# How Popular Are Dogs... on a menu?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 3, 2008, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-popular-are-dogs-on-a-menu/458693 "2008-08-03T10:03:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-popular-are-dogs-on-a-menu/458693/121 "2008-08-04T09:19:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Koxinga]  
I dunno, ivan. I do believe we’ve had a couple of orientals participate in this thread, or husbands of orientals. What do you guys think?  
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That may well be the case, but none of them have vouched for the said properties of eating dogs, so I assume they aren’t the backward thinking males I am talking about.

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-popular-are-dogs-on-a-menu/458693/122 "2008-08-04T09:25:53Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
There’s not a drop of racist blood in my body. I’m just targeting the typical dog eater.  
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Sigh. There is no thing as the “typical dog eater” here. Your assumption that everyone who eats dog is “Oriental” and can’t speak English is grossly ignorant. Plenty of tourists come to Korea and try it out to see what it’s like.

_I_ am an Oriental, as you so nicely put it. I have met many Koreans who have eaten dog. They all live in Seoul and have white-collar jobs. Some are even professors. Imagine, people with PhDs, eating dog! They eat dog because they like it. They don’t go around butchering seeing-eye dogs or toy poodles either, as you seem to be suggesting. Some people just eat dogs because they taste good. It’s really as simple as that. The “special relationship” you keep hanging on to is _a cultural difference_. In the West, in certain cultures, dogs are considered to be “man’s best friend,” and as such they are not considered food. But _in other cultures_, they are no different than cats or rabbits or pigeons or fish.

Are you really incapable of seeing how arbitrary your imagined human-dog connection is? Why don’t you just grow some balls and admit that what you’re really trying to say is that you think “Oriental cultures” are all primitive and immoral?

For the record, this Oriental bitch thinks you are an ignorant racist asshole. But what do I know, I think eating dog is okay.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-popular-are-dogs-on-a-menu/458693/123 "2008-08-04T09:29:44Z")

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Can I ask for a show of hands at this point?

How many people think eating dogs for their ‘medicinal qualities’ is a perfectly acceptable state of affairs, and not something “outsiders” should be sticking their nose in?

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-popular-are-dogs-on-a-menu/458693/124 "2008-08-04T09:39:43Z")

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[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]  
Sigh. There is no thing as the “typical dog eater” here. Your assumption that everyone who eats dog is “Oriental” and can’t speak English is grossly ignorant. Plenty of tourists come to Korea and try it out to see what it’s like.

_I_ am an Oriental, as you so nicely put it. I have met many Koreans who have eaten dog. They all live in Seoul and have white-collar jobs. Some are even professors. Imagine, people with PhDs, eating dog! They eat dog because they like it. They don’t go around butchering seeing-eye dogs or toy poodles either, as you seem to be suggesting. Some people just eat dogs because they taste good. It’s really as simple as that. The “special relationship” you keep hanging on to is _a cultural difference_. In the West, in certain cultures, dogs are considered to be “man’s best friend,” and as such they are not considered food. But _in other cultures_, they are no different than cats or rabbits or pigeons or fish.

Are you really incapable of seeing how arbitrary your imagined human-dog connection is? Why don’t you just grow some balls and admit that what you’re really trying to say is that you think “Oriental cultures” are all primitive and immoral?

For the record, this Oriental bitch thinks you are an ignorant racist asshole. But what do I know, I think eating dog is okay.  
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I have great admiration for lots of Far Eastern culture, but I do think eating dogs when there are so many options available, is a blot on your historical landscape. The fact that it does not seem to be increasing in either your own part of the world or elsewhere, seems to bear out my personal abhorrence to the practice.

And are those white-collar workers, professors, and people with PhD’s male, perchance? How many of your female friends and associates eat dog on a regular basis?

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**Author:** ![Darryl\_Lict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@Darryl\_Lict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darryl_Lict)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-popular-are-dogs-on-a-menu/458693/125 "2008-08-04T09:44:05Z")

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I’m an “oriental” male, born and bred in America and as stated earlier, have eaten dog. Now that you mentioned it, there was a preponderance of men at the dog restaurant, but I never heard of it as an aphrodisiac. I think it’s fine to eat dogs for whatever fucking reason people want to.

You are, however, a retard.

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-popular-are-dogs-on-a-menu/458693/126 "2008-08-04T09:49:21Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
I have great admiration for lots of Far Eastern culture, but I do think eating dogs when there are so many options available, is a blot on your historical landscape. The fact that it does not seem to be increasing in either your own part of the world or elsewhere, seems to bear out my personal abhorrence to the practice.

And are those white-collar workers, professors, and people with PhD’s male, perchance? How many of your female friends and associates eat dog on a regular basis?  
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The fact that it is not increasing is because Western culture is becoming the norm, for better or for worse. Your idiocy is revealed in the fact that you consider Western culture (or eating habits, at least) to be somehow superior to the rest of the world.

Eating dog is a predominantly male activity. Like drinking beer and watching football in the US. I’ve known women who’ve eaten dog as well. Those that don’t are not abstaining because they think the act per se is immoral. For example, my mom doesn’t like the smell of the meat.

Jesus Christ. I’ve never had a desire to eat dog meat, but this entire thread makes me want to go out and butcher the first puppy I see and devour it raw for dinner.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-popular-are-dogs-on-a-menu/458693/127 "2008-08-04T09:50:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Darryl Lict]  
I’m an “oriental” male, born and bred in America and as stated earlier, have eaten dog. Now that you mentioned it, there was a preponderance of men at the dog restaurant, but I never heard of it as an aphrodisiac. I think it’s fine to eat dogs for whatever fucking reason people want to.

You are, however, a retard.  
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Tell your friends there is a product called Viagra. Better yet, stick it in your dog soup.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-popular-are-dogs-on-a-menu/458693/128 "2008-08-04T09:51:25Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
I have great admiration for lots of Far Eastern culture, but I do think eating dogs when there are so many options available, is a blot on your historical landscape.  
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How many options are available? In some cases, it’s more economically sensible to eat dog - since they are easy to raise, can get by on scraps and don’t require special food , and breed quickly - than to eat other kinds of animals. Sometimes people are hungry or poor and they don’t _have_ other options available.

In any case, you’re being a fucking idiot by pushing this matter and being so damn hard-headed about it. A dog is just another animal - I like dogs, a lot, and I probably wouldn’t eat one, but I realize that I’ve just been conditioned by my culture to have that aversion, and I don’t have any problems with other cultures doing it. You’re making this out to be some kind of evil, morally corrupt thing, and it isn’t.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-popular-are-dogs-on-a-menu/458693/129 "2008-08-04T09:57:55Z")

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[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]  
The fact that it is not increasing is because Western culture is becoming the norm, for better or for worse. Your idiocy is revealed in the fact that you consider Western culture (or eating habits, at least) to be somehow superior to the rest of the world.  
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Not ‘superior’, ‘predominant’. The West is doing it’s best to try and assimilate the best qualities of other cultures - or at least it should be- but you can keep your dog fricassee, if you don’t mind!

[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]

Eating dog is a predominantly male activity. Like drinking beer and watching football in the US. I’ve known women who’ve eaten dog as well. Those that don’t are not abstaining because they think the act per se is immoral. For example, my mom doesn’t like the smell of the meat.  
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You’re just helping me confirm that it is ass-hole males who are helping to propagate this shit, so thank you.

[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]

Jesus Christ. I’ve never had a desire to eat dog meat, but this entire thread makes me want to go out and butcher the first puppy I see and devour it raw for dinner.  
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I like the cut of your jib really, HNC. 😉

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-popular-are-dogs-on-a-menu/458693/130 "2008-08-04T09:58:35Z")

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You’re an idiot, go fuck your mother.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-popular-are-dogs-on-a-menu/458693/131 "2008-08-04T10:03:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Argent Towers]  
How many options are available? In some cases, it’s more economically sensible to eat dog - since they are easy to raise, can get by on scraps and don’t require special food , and breed quickly - than to eat other kinds of animals. Sometimes people are hungry or poor and they don’t _have_ other options available.  
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And those are all valid reasons for eating _anything_! But advertising mystical qualities to be associated with eating certain animals, doesn’t fall into any of those categories, does it?

[QUOTE=Argent Towers]

In any case, you’re being a fucking idiot by pushing this matter and being so damn hard-headed about it. A dog is just another animal - I like dogs, a lot, and I probably wouldn’t eat one, but I realize that I’ve just been conditioned by my culture to have that aversion, and I don’t have any problems with other cultures doing it. **You’re making this out to be some kind of evil, morally corrupt thing** , and it isn’t.  
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Not really. More like selfish, and perverse!

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-popular-are-dogs-on-a-menu/458693/132 "2008-08-04T10:04:24Z")

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What are you doing here? I thought I told you to go fuck your mother.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-popular-are-dogs-on-a-menu/458693/133 "2008-08-04T10:05:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Argent Towers]  
You’re an idiot, go fuck your mother.  
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After I’ve finished with yours. ( Don’t tell me she’s dead, that’ll turn me on to fuck!)

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**Author:** ![Radaga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e274bd/32.png) [@Radaga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Radaga)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-popular-are-dogs-on-a-menu/458693/134 "2008-08-04T10:06:48Z")

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As long as it is a vegan, so i am not eating a carnivore, of course 😉

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-popular-are-dogs-on-a-menu/458693/135 "2008-08-04T10:10:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Radaga]  
As long as it is a vegan, so i am not eating a carnivore, of course 😉  
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Argent says it’s okay, cos dogs are omnivores. Chow down!

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**Author:** ![HongKongFooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c4cdca/32.png) [@HongKongFooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HongKongFooey)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-popular-are-dogs-on-a-menu/458693/136 "2008-08-04T10:12:00Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
After I’ve finished with yours. ( Don’t tell me she’s dead, that’ll turn me on to fuck!)  
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Wow, it’s a good thing he didn’t insult your dog :rolleyes: You are well and truly fucked up.

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**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-popular-are-dogs-on-a-menu/458693/137 "2008-08-04T10:12:32Z")

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Hey, if dogs aren’t meant to be eaten, how come they’re made out of meat?

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-popular-are-dogs-on-a-menu/458693/138 "2008-08-04T10:13:58Z")

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[QUOTE=HongKongFooey]  
Wow, it’s a good thing he didn’t insult your dog :rolleyes: You are well and truly fucked up.  
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It’s only jolly banter. If you are feeling a bit squeamish, perhaps you should try another thread?

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-popular-are-dogs-on-a-menu/458693/139 "2008-08-04T10:16:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Bill Door]  
Hey, if dogs aren’t meant to be eaten, how come they’re made out of meat?  
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Can I feed you to my dog then. Perhaps there could be a new “Fuckwit flavour” dog meat for the market?

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**Author:** ![HongKongFooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c4cdca/32.png) [@HongKongFooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HongKongFooey)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-popular-are-dogs-on-a-menu/458693/140 "2008-08-04T10:20:23Z")

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[QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
It’s only jolly banter. If you are feeling a bit squeamish, perhaps you should try another thread?  
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Yeah, it’s jolly banter now that you see your ideas don’t have any traction. How many people do you think you’ve converted to your way of thinking so far?

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