# How recently did firearms trump the best archers?

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**Created:** [October 12, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-recently-did-firearms-trump-the-best-archers/599445 "2011-10-12T18:43:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-recently-did-firearms-trump-the-best-archers/599445/61 "2011-10-14T12:53:27Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> I’ve heard of up to 15 a minute, but no one could sustain that rate for very long with an 80+ pound bow…you’d be worn out (and you’d have to have arms like a gorilla to even try it). IIRC, 5-6 shots of aimed, massed fire a minute was more normal for English Longbowmen during combat.
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> (Have you read the latest book in the series? Just came out about a month or so ago)
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> -XT

Yeah, that quote was **from** it! (Sample chapters available on [Stirling’s website.](http://www.smstirling.com/))

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