# How’s Carney doing, Canada? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2025, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850 "2025-05-04T03:54:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/1 "2025-05-04T03:54:23Z")
This thread is for the discussion of the Carney ministry, which took office in March 2025 and was elected to a minority government on April 28, 2025. Prime Minister Carney has advised the GovGen to summon Parliament a month from now, on May 27, 2025. Through the GovGen, Mary Simon, he’s also invited the King to give the Throne Speech. Sounds like the king is pleased as punch to get the invite. Queen Camilla, who is a descendent of a former premier of the Province of Canada, will also make the trip. [https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7524946](https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7524946) ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/2 "2025-05-04T04:50:21Z")
Not much substantive to say about Mark Carney at this early stage in terms of performance, but I have a great deal of respect for him. He’s a serious, intelligent man with impressive credentials and I have high hopes for this government. Wish it had been a majority but we take what we can get. Carney’s greatest accomplishments so far are winning the election, reversing the almost guaranteed win for Poilievre who in my view is a regressive ignoramus, and strengthening relationships with Europe after his recent visit there, including getting King Charles to visit and open Parliament here in a few weeks. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/3 "2025-05-04T05:07:53Z")
My impression of Carney is that he is the adult in the room and he is behaving as such. I didn’t vote Liberal but I don’t hate him (also never hated Trudeau and did not understand the irrational hatred some people had for him) and I look forward to seeing what he does. I did recently see an absurd editorial about how he was going to be worse than Trudeau. I don’t want to try to find it again because I don’t want any algorithms feeding that kind of thing to me. But the gist of it was that he is a “globalist” who was going to carve Canada up and feed it to the rich. It was absurd fear-mongering and since it repeated “globalist” over and over, I quickly lost interest in the argument. But there is at least one person out there with access to a media platform who thinks Carney is worse than Satan, Hitler, Pol Pot and both Trudeaus combined. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/4 "2025-05-04T06:50:49Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > it repeated “globalist” over and over They mean he’s a banker, by which they mean he’s a (((banker.))) And while he may not literally be a (((banker,))) he’s doing the bidding of the (((bankers.))) It’s nasty, gross code. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/5 "2025-05-04T10:43:53Z")
I was listening to Newstalk 1010 here in Toronto just after his first presser. The Conservative hosts were gobsmacked after he: - came to the National Press Studio instead of making them schlep to a standup - Started **on time** - Gave straight answers to hard questions about things like working with the NDP I think he’s off to a great start ---
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/6 "2025-05-04T12:18:50Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Queen Camilla, who is a descendent of a former premier of the Province of Canada Do you mean Allan “All my politics are railroads” MacNab, noted land speculator, labelled by an associate as “an excrescence which cannot be got rid of”? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/7 "2025-05-04T14:35:17Z")
Exactly! Also known for his summary of his political views: “All my politics are railways.” ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/8 "2025-05-04T14:47:12Z")
What did he say about working with the NDP? ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/9 "2025-05-04T16:17:17Z")
“No”. When asked to elaborate, he said there was no need to do so. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/i9-vIXvd1SU/maxresdefault.jpg "Mark Carney on forming a pack with NDP") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9-vIXvd1SU) ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/10 "2025-05-04T16:51:30Z")
??? Without a formal deal he could lose a confidence vote. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/11 "2025-05-04T16:55:40Z")
None of the parties have the stomach (funds and public ire) to go to the polls anytime soon. Also the Bloc gave the Liberals a “free pass” on all confidence votes for about a year. They have 20 votes, well enough to cover the 3 seat gap to keep the House’s confidence. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/12 "2025-05-04T17:11:17Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Without a formal deal he could lose a confidence vote. Which means he’ll be crafting legislation and budgets with that in mind. One of the worst aspects of the current political culture is the idea that opposition parties will simply always oppose _everything_. “Compromise” isn’t supposed to be a bad word. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/13 "2025-05-04T17:12:56Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > ??? Without a formal deal he could lose a confidence vote. No, Carney is right. With 7 seats the NDP is largely irrelevant, and without a current permanent leader there’s really no one to negotiate with. And the Bloc will give him the support he needs at least for a while. At some point he might need the NDP but not now. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/14 "2025-05-04T17:25:46Z")
The NDP is not a threat… for now. If the Bloc stopped cooperating, or if the Liberal poll numbers stay on par with the Tories, or if enough time passes the Liberals will need a partner (or they’ll need to flip 3 seats). For now they are good. They won the election and the expectation is that Carney will focus on using this period to enact his agenda. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/15 "2025-05-04T19:40:19Z")
Having a formal confidence-and-supply agreement is relatively new in Canada. I don’t think Harper, Martin, or Pierre Trudeau had them when they were in minority governments. ---
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/16 "2025-05-04T23:21:23Z")
Or King with the Progressives in the 1920s. Re MacNab, “railways” is considered Canadian usage, but according to the Dictionary of Canadian Biography entry, he said “railroads,” admittedly after a bottle or two of port. And the DCB editors are pretty ferocious, not to say pedantic. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/17 "2025-05-05T00:26:23Z")
My answer may surprise you, but one thing that Carney has done persuades me that he is the adult in the room. He could have delayed the by election that will put PP in parliament for 6 months. Instead he has said he will call the by election ASAP. This is a generous person and I approve. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/18 "2025-05-05T00:42:40Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > I didn’t vote Liberal but I don’t hate him (also never hated Trudeau and did not understand the irrational hatred some people had for him) and I look forward to seeing what he does. > > I did recently see an absurd editorial about how he was going to be worse than Trudeau. Yeah really, Justin seemed to have a talent for causing intense emotional reactions to his person. And of course a certain bunch on both sides of the border will be consistent on always saying _“the new guy is an even worse radical extremist!!”_ no matter who it is. > [@Cervaise](#): > > > [@DWMarch](#): > > > > it repeated “globalist” over and over > > They mean he’s a banker, by which they mean he’s a (((banker.))) And while he may not literally be a (((banker,))) he’s doing the bidding of the (((bankers.))) Good Heavens, man, even maybe a cosmopolite! > [@wolfpup](#): > > and without a current permanent leader there’s really no one to negotiate with. Good point there – takes two to make a deal. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/19 "2025-05-05T00:52:33Z")
Honestly I’m sure Carney did it because he is shrewd, there is literally no reason for him to fear PP cementing his control again as he’s the main reason Carney won. If PP was replaced the Liberals risk losing those fearful NDP voters, they helped save Carney’s Liberals from being wiped. PP did that. Carney owes a lot to their fear. Yeah, come back PP. I got your by-election, no prob. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/20 "2025-05-05T03:29:03Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > …Good Heavens, man, even maybe a cosmopolite!.. Even his worst critics concede, at least, that he is not a kulak. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850.md?page=2)