# How’s Carney doing, Canada? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2025, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850 "2025-05-04T03:54:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2025, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/301 "2025-08-30T19:43:19Z")
So he’s simultaneously an incompetent do-nothing and a sinister criminal mastermind? Who do they think Carney is - Joe Biden? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2025, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/302 "2025-08-30T19:55:15Z")
Interestingly, remember how Biden was completely responsible for worldwide inflation in 2023/24? In Canada, it was Trudeau who was completely responsible for worldwide inflation! ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2025, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/303 "2025-08-30T20:09:44Z")
But Trudeau was responsible for a full decade of financial difficulties, no other outside events matter at all! He was all powerful did it single handedly, ask any conservative! ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/304 "2025-08-30T20:14:41Z")
> [@Uzi](#): > > My mistake 0.1% not 0.01% What is that number supposed to mean? It seems to be referring to Canada’s contribution to global emissions. If so, **[that figure is actually 1.5%](https://www.statista.com/topics/9012/emissions-in-canada/)** and makes Canada the 11th largerst carbon emitter in the world. I’d suggest that you stop getting your information from disreputable right-wing rags. In any case, absolute emission quantities are not the point. It’s the responsibility of **all** countries to avoid the tragedy of the commons and collaborate to collectively reduce global emissions. That’s what the UNFCCC and the Paris Accord are about. > [@Uzi](#): > > Canada could shut down oil production tomorrow and global demand wouldn’t drop a barrel — it would just be met by Saudi, U.S., or Russian supply. The Paris Accord is about cutting **demand** … The Paris Accord is about keeping temperature rise below catastrophic levels by drastically reducing fossil fuel consumption. **Every single point** in the Smith + Polievre manifesto you listed above calls for either massive expansion of fossil fuel production or increased domestic consumption, including investing billions in new oil pipelines. You don’t see that as directly contrary to the critical goals of the Paris Accord? You don’t see that as tying our fortunes to a dangerously destructive resource whose use **must** diminish over time? Is blatant denial of reality really the best way forward? What Smith + Polievre are advocating is really just willful ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2025, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/305 "2025-08-30T20:16:06Z")
It turns out Trudeau didn’t actually do anything on his own. He was just a puppet for Carney, who was basically ruling Canada in his spare time while being Governor of the Bank of England. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2025, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/306 "2025-08-31T00:09:08Z")
**Carney condemns Putin for Russian attack on Kyiv that ‘deliberately targeted’ civilians** I approve of this. All world leaders need to speak out forcefully against Russian aggression. Even leaders of the official opposition. [Carney condemns Putin for Russian attack on Kyiv that ‘deliberately targeted’ civilians | CBC News](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/kyiv-ukraine-capital-russian-attack-1.7619702) ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2025, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/307 "2025-08-31T04:11:18Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > If so, **[that figure is actually 1.5%](https://www.statista.com/topics/9012/emissions-in-canada/)** and makes Canada the 11th largerst carbon emitter in the world. Hmmm. You didn’t actually read what I wrote. I said that if Canada stopped producing oil others would take up that slack. Because the oil sands are carbon intensive, the benefit to the world, for Canada sacrificing over 12%GDP and a couple hundred thousand jobs would be the difference between high carbon oil sands and lower carbon oil from places like Saudi. A grand total of about 0.1% difference to the environment. That gap is closing as new technologies come on line making oil sand extraction less carbon intensive. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/308 "2025-09-03T03:49:04Z")
I happen to agree with this opinion piece: **Carney’s recent European trip sends a strong message to Trump** > The trip highlights just one of many efforts undertaken by Ottawa to advance and deepen relationships with other nations, even as ties with the United States continue to crumble. > > Record purchases of Canadian crude]([China’s record purchases of Canadian oil could be harbinger of more deals](https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/trumps-tariffs/article/eric-ham-chinas-record-purchases-of-canadian-crude-could-be-a-harbinger-of-more-deals-to-come/)) by China; re-establishing diplomatic ties with India; and now investing in ties throughout Europe all underscore a government and nation preparing for a deepening Cold War with America led by its unpredictable president. [Opinion: Carney’s Europe trips send strong message to Trump](https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business/politics/2025/09/02/eric-ham-carneys-recent-european-trip-sends-a-strong-message-to-trump/) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/309 "2025-09-03T11:54:49Z")
The Trump era has really put the final nail in the coffin of the Cold War era. The former status quo that America was the friend and ally of all freedom-loving people everywhere has breathed its last, and all its former allies are shifting to a new paradigm without reliance on the US economically, diplomatically or militarily. Which is what Carney has been focused on since taking office. That doesn’t mean no deals with the US, but it does mean an acknowledgement that any goodwill that was baked into previous deals isn’t there anymore, and the leverage the US had as the “big brother willing to beat up any bullies” is likewise rapidly dwindling. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/310 "2025-09-04T15:06:06Z")
If Harper or Poilievre did this I wouldn’t give them the benefit of the doubt so Carney doesn’t get it either. I dont particularly care if he has since been _unable to attend_. [https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/kevin-roberts-project-2025-carney-1.7624327](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/kevin-roberts-project-2025-carney-1.7624327) ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/311 "2025-09-05T10:03:41Z")
Sun Tzu “Know the enemy and know yourself, and you can fight a hundred battles without disaster.” ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/312 "2025-09-05T10:37:50Z")
So the Project 2025 leader wimped out of speaking in Canada? What, afraid he’d face unfriendly crowds? ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/313 "2025-09-05T13:22:44Z")
Surely you noticed Sun Tzu does not say “invite the general of your enemy to a leadership conference and see what they say”. It is entirely possible to “know” your enemy without having your head up their ass. You could, had the PMO any sense of seriousness, invite experts in Russian disinformation campaigns (e.g. [Molly McKew](https://macdonaldlaurier.ca/influencers-at-the-gate-the-role-of-influencers-in-russian-info-influence-ops-active-measures-with-marcus-kolga/)), countering Chinese activities (e.g. [Sze-Fung Lee](https://macdonaldlaurier.ca/ten-things-taiwan-can-teach-canada-sze-fung-lee/)), security when living next to an revanchist/authoritarian nation-state (e.g. [Stefano Braghiroli](https://news.err.ee/1609616342/stefano-braghiroli-the-baltic-states-in-the-era-of-trump-s-insecurity)) or just about anyone to discuss getting Canada to tech rush the next 30 years instead of focusing on clawing material out of the ground and selling it. ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/314 "2025-09-05T17:00:42Z")
The USA isn’t our enemy, BTW. I was making the point that if you don’t talk (or listen) to people you can’t find common ground to make deals on. ---
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/315 "2025-09-05T17:04:37Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > So - let corporations pollute freely. Got it. Yes, it’s like the Koch brothers are writing legislation. Politics is supposed to be a little more representative in a democracy. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/316 "2025-09-05T19:03:37Z")
What makes you think Carney is not listening to Trump? What makes you think the Trump administration has any interest in “finding common ground”? Do you think the USA is Canada’s friend? ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/317 "2025-09-05T19:24:00Z")
It was a poor attempt to justify a contrarian take. The Liberal Party chose to invite the primary author of an authoritarian nationalist program as a speaker to their cabinet retreat. That is a fucking stupid idea. Mark Carney is the leader of the Liberal Party and PM and so the fucking stupid idea is his to wear. ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2025, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/318 "2025-09-06T01:46:44Z")
Yeah, you’re right it was a stupid idea. Sorry for being contrarian. There would be better ways to do this. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/319 "2025-09-08T14:21:15Z")
In non-political Carney news: Carney just ran a 26-kilometre Haliburton Forest Trail Race, north of Toronto > “It has a reputation as one of the harder trail runs in Canada,” organizer Tegan Legge said in a phone interview, noting the course features steep hills and an occasional rock face that competitors must scramble up. > > “A ‘crushing course’ is what we hear, but we take that as a compliment.” > > After running 26 k and supporting his wife and all kinds of stuff, he hung around the finish line for I’d say an hour, just chatting with people and having photos taken, engaging everyone,” Black said. > > “Everyone thought he was super nice.” > > Out of 120 runners in the 26-kilometre race, Carney finished 58th, with a time of just over three hours and 45 minutes. [Carney surprises many with appearance at long-distance trail race](https://toronto.citynews.ca/2025/09/07/carney-surprises-many-with-appearance-at-long-distance-trail-race/) ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/320 "2025-09-08T15:04:00Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > the course features steep hills and an occasional rock face that competitors must scramble up. “Is the Prime Minister training to fight on the frontlines? Why won’t he come clean about this impending war?!!?” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850.md?page=17)