# How’s Carney doing, Canada? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2025, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850 "2025-05-04T03:54:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 584
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850/584 "2026-01-21T13:46:52Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > Not to mention that Canada is VERY willing to get into free trades deals with the US. The entire past 30 years was Canada integrating its economy with the US. That was the trajectory for the future. Trump burned it all down to rebuild it in his image… then he burned THAT down too. > > He doesn’t want free trade. He doesn’t want an integrated economy. He wants an economy where the US produces everything at the expense of the industries of neighbouring countries. There is no space to allow Canadian industry to exist in unison with American industry. Canada cannot exist except to be a raw resource exporting country THAT IS ALSO tariffed to keep US producers exporting. Yeah, so. Since integration has been publicly highlighted as a tool of subjugation, Canada is probably not looking to integrate its economy any longer. At least not Carney, and 100% not with Trump. This is quite the “put all your cards on the table” moment. Yikes. On the bright side, Carney however is signaling that he is open to multilateral deals with all other middle powers. We are each others salvation. We just need to recognize the reality we are in and embrace it. Honestly this fits exactly with what Carney has been actively pursuing; opening new trade deals with unfree countries who would normally be shunned as part of a wider grand strategy of economic integration (with the USA led democracy bloc) and isolation (of weaker non-democratic powers). Trump has upturned that apple cart. Canada cannot uphold its values-based economic strategy once the USA has, itself, uses its key tenet (our mutual economic reliance) as a tool for subjugation and conquering us. Trump has killed it all. Europe is coming around to it, but they still won’t toss away NATO; not while Ukraine is still at war. Europe haven’t yet built up a cohesive and dynamic integrated military and economic EU (if they can ever pull THAT off). EU politics is still a bag of cats. Getting better by the decade, but it’s not like an actual federated country (the US). Edit: I do like that they have recognized (finally) Trump’s threats as serious and are sending a canary multi-nation force to Greenland. If Trump attacks he’ll need to stab all these countries in the face. It will be as clear a betrayal as ever. No Euro-MAGA fascists and Neville Chamberlains can hand wave that away. NATO will be dead. USA will be an enemy. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-s-carney-doing-canada/1017850)._