# How serious are the latest allegations against Hilary? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 29, 2016, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011 "2016-10-29T14:23:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011/21 "2016-10-29T22:39:42Z")
As noted, Trump has lied to his followers about the investigation being re-opened and a lot of the items and what Comey said about the status of Clinton in the case (That Clinton will get it when no mention of any changed status of Clinton’s by not needing to be indicted was made in the letter). What I do notice is how many of the followers of Trump do not see those lies as a problem, but as a feature. Really, there is a problem when Trump shows others how deluded he can get. That should not be a quality a president of the United States should have. New York Magazine looked at the final days of the Trump campaign and added this note: > **[The Final Days of Trump’s Unmanageable, Unrepentant, and Unprecedented Campaign](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/10/trump-campaign-final-days.html?ref=1)** > > His advisers are working hard to plan out their own futures while riding out the roller-coaster end of the election. > [@](#): > > In recent weeks, the mood at Trump Tower has veered between despair and denial—with a hit of resurgent glee when the news broke that the FBI was looking into more of Clinton’s emails. When I asked one senior Trump adviser to describe the scene inside, he responded: “Think of the bunker right before Hitler killed himself. Donald’s in denial. They’re all in denial.” (As Times columnist Ross Douthat put it, in a tweet, “In Trumpworld as Hitler’s Bunker terms,” the FBI investigation is “like when Goebbels thought FDR’s death would save the Nazi regime.”) ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2016, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011/22 "2016-10-29T22:49:23Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > As noted, Trump has lied to his followers about the investigation being re-opened and a lot of the items and what Comey said about the status of Clinton in the case (That Clinton will get it when no mention of any changed status of Clinton’s by not needing to be indicted was made in the letter). > > What I do notice is how many of the followers of Trump do not see those lies as a problem, but as a feature. Really, there is a problem when Trump shows others how deluded he can get. That should not be a quality a president of the United States should have. > > New York Magazine looked at the final days of the Trump campaign and added this note: > > [The Final Days of Trump’s Unprecedented Campaign](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/trump-campaign-final-days.html?ref=1) A message from a Trumpist on another board I read said, “I literally jumped for joy.” ---
**Author:** ![Victor\_Charlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7ea924/32.png) [@Victor\_Charlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Victor_Charlie)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011/23 "2016-10-30T01:08:11Z")
It’s time for Hillary to dump Huma. She may not be to blame for her semi-retarded husband’s antics, but Hillary needs to unload that whole circus. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011/24 "2016-10-30T01:33:25Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > Republicans will be investigating Hillary for the next four years. May as well get used to it. Eight. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011/25 "2016-10-30T02:06:11Z")
> [@Victor\_Charlie](#): > > It’s time for Hillary to dump Huma. She may not be to blame for her semi-retarded husband’s antics, but Hillary needs to unload that whole circus. Sometimes you have to have an underling fall on their sword. Seeya, Huma. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011/26 "2016-10-30T02:12:03Z")
> [@Victor\_Charlie](#): > > It’s time for Hillary to dump Huma. She may not be to blame for her semi-retarded husband’s antics, but Hillary needs to unload that whole circus. “There will be no sins of Huma in this campaign” ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011/27 "2016-10-30T03:26:29Z")
> [@Victor\_Charlie](#): > > It’s time for Hillary to dump Huma. She may not be to blame for her semi-retarded husband’s antics, but Hillary needs to unload that whole circus. Disagree. Clinton will and should stay true to who she is: loyal to those who have been loyal to her and who have done nothing wrong. She will not and should not throw Huma under the bus. There are no actual latest allegations. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011/28 "2016-10-30T03:52:11Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > Republicans will be investigating Hillary for the next four years. May as well get used to it. Eight years; her second term is almost as certain as her first has been for the last eight years. And for all their trying they still they can’t pin a thing on her! So back to the OP – these e-mails are as meaningless as all the others. ---
**Author:** ![contradancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@contradancer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/contradancer)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011/29 "2016-10-30T06:18:12Z")
> [@Enola\_Gay](#): > > I personally don’t give a flying fuck about Hilary Clinton’s email server. But Trumpeters on facebook are gloating that the latest FBI probe will cost her the election. Then today I learned that [her lead is shrinking](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/hillary-clinton-lead-donald-trump-continues-shrink-article-1.2850111). > > Is this as bad as certain people are making is sound or much ado about nothing?? The reality of it it isnt serious at all because it has nothing to do with Hillary. There are probably emails from huma to her ex-husband’s device. He probably has a number of email addresses because he was registered on all those underage sex sites. they all feed into his main email. Trump keeps trying to include Bill Clinton and anyone else he can draw into Hillary’s sphere. Why don’t they include Trump’s wife and his children? Just as legitimate. Do far all I’ve seen is donald Jr. with a dead leopard. He’s an animal killer and so is his brother. I don’t care what Huma said to her husband or what he said to her. I retired from the government with a secret clearance. The people that decided those classifications? It’s not cut and dried and like in days gone by may be classified by some nimcompoop. And by the way, Guliani must have had a stroke. He is yelling and not making any sense. I used to like him when I lived in NY. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011/30 "2016-10-30T06:49:38Z")
What allegations? I haven’t seen any actual allegations as to what Hillary has done wrong here. She mishandled email? She’s already admitted that, apologized for it and been cleared by the FBI. Now the FBI is looking at her emails again and so what? The only thing I can sort of see is that forlorn hope amongst conservatives that somewhere in Weiner’s archive of dick pics is THE EMAIL from Hillary in which she discusses how Benghazi was her idea all along and how she’s going to set up the FEMA death camps one second after becoming POTUS. These “allegations” are the equivalent of investigating Donald Trump because he was in the same room as Bill Cosby at one point in time. If you thought she was wrong about emails before, are you super outraged now? Did your cry go from “lock her up” to “put her up against the wall”? If you didn’t care before, do you care now? ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011/31 "2016-10-30T13:01:40Z")
> [@ganthet](#): > > The computer being examined was apparently shared between Huma and Weiner. Based on the limited info so far, the new emails are ones that Huma sent to Hillary and not necessarily emails Hillary sent to her. It was Weiner’s laptop. I know no couple who shares a laptop. I don’t think I’ve ever used my husband’s laptop in 21 years of marriage. They don’t even have a warrant to look at it yet. Now, realistically, what messages are you going to find from Huma to Hillary or vice versa regarding state department business on Huma’s husband’s laptop? How often do you think a guy who likes sending dick pics to other women lets his wife use his laptop? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011/32 "2016-10-30T13:58:04Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > It was Weiner’s laptop. I know no couple who shares a laptop. I don’t think I’ve ever used my husband’s laptop in 21 years of marriage. They don’t even have a warrant to look at it yet. > > Now, realistically, what messages are you going to find from Huma to Hillary or vice versa regarding state department business on Huma’s husband’s laptop? How often do you think a guy who likes sending dick pics to other women lets his wife use his laptop? Really? You know no couple that shares a laptop? Our whole family does. We own one laptop, my wife, the kids and I all use it. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011/33 "2016-10-30T14:06:27Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Really? You know no couple that shares a laptop? Our whole family does. We own one laptop, my wife, the kids and I all use it. Yeah. My Wife and I share a laptop. And one desktop (which she is welcome to use but does not). The laptop is mostly just used for surfing the web. emails and such. I’ll pay bills on it sometimes too. When I upgraded our laptop, we kept the old one for a bit (so we could each have our own). But it was never used so I gave it to my cousin. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011/34 "2016-10-30T15:02:35Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > How often do you think a guy who likes sending dick pics to other women lets his wife use his laptop? She wouldn’t even want to \*touch \*it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011/35 "2016-10-30T15:10:21Z")
Republicans (and RINOs like Trump) are hailing it as the Second Coming, Comey is counting his future chickens, and the only ones who lose out are the American public. Absolutely nothing new under the sun. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011/36 "2016-10-30T15:13:53Z")
The allegations are very serious indeed! Its a bit harder to judge the facts, because there really aren’t any. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011/37 "2016-10-30T16:31:16Z")
This story was ~ page 6 in my local Sunday paper today (San Jose Merc.). Not exactly burning up the wires. Without more info, the story should fade even more this week. (Which, btw, is one more reason for Coney to keep his trap shut about this. The more he says, the more 'in the news" it is.) ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011/38 "2016-10-30T17:01:46Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > How often do you think a guy who likes sending dick pics to other women lets his wife use his laptop? Actually, what Weiner seems to like is being _caught_ sending dick pics to other women. Sending them from a shared device is probably part of it, for him. And Huma should resign, rather than being dumped. Hillary should accept her resignation. They can still be BFFs, if they want, but Huma’s situation is a distraction that Hillary doesn’t need. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011/39 "2016-10-30T18:14:19Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Really? You know no couple that shares a laptop? Our whole family does. We own one laptop, my wife, the kids and I all use it. Nope, but most people I know use them for work and are in a high income household. There are six functional laptops in our home of four people. There is no reason to grab anyone’s but mine - and certainly no one uses my work laptop but me - nor do I grab anyone else’s laptop for work. (I MIGHT grab a laptop sitting on the coffee table to figure out what actor that is that isn’t mine. I never have - I don’t even know other people’s passwords for the five tablets that are in the house). I can’t imagine that the Abedin-Weiner household is so cash strapped that Anthony doesn’t get his very own laptop. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011/40 "2016-10-30T19:16:37Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > Nope, but most people I know use them for work and are in a high income household. There are six functional laptops in our home of four people. There is no reason to grab anyone’s but mine - and certainly no one uses my work laptop but me - nor do I grab anyone else’s laptop for work. > > (I MIGHT grab a laptop sitting on the coffee table to figure out what actor that is that isn’t mine. I never have - I don’t even know other people’s passwords for the five tablets that are in the house). > > I can’t imagine that the Abedin-Weiner household is so cash strapped that Anthony doesn’t get his very own laptop. Forgive me, being from a Dickensian peasant family myself, I’m not used to the ways of the fortunate. :rolleyes: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-serious-are-the-latest-allegations-against-hilary/770011.md?page=3)