# How should the Pit be changed, if at all? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [July 19, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-should-the-pit-be-changed-if-at-all/946859 "2021-07-19T23:19:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2021, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-should-the-pit-be-changed-if-at-all/946859/808 "2021-09-03T09:18:10Z")
Funnily enough, some of our more notable and now-departed conservative posters were fond of making the argument that the reason certain demographics were more heavily targeted and punished by law enforcement was because they were disproportionately more likely to engage in bad behavior rather than due to any systemic bias, while separately arguing that the reason right-wing posters here tended to be more often Pitted and/or the focus of moderation was due to systemic bias rather than because they were disproportionately more likely to engage in bad behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2021, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-should-the-pit-be-changed-if-at-all/946859/809 "2021-09-03T11:25:48Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Generally people aren’t Pitted because of their political views, they are Pitted because they say things that others find objectionable. Which are basically the same thing, because they are saying things in line with their political views and people don’t like it and start having a go at them. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-should-the-pit-be-changed-if-at-all/946859/810 "2021-09-03T18:05:33Z")
Whatever happened to **Der\_Trihs**? Haven’t seen him/her in ages. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2021, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-should-the-pit-be-changed-if-at-all/946859/811 "2021-09-03T19:06:17Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > For one thing, you’re citing a thread from fourteen years ago. For another, you’re being very selective in your characterization of that thread. > > You’re talking about it as though it were an unmitigated anticonservative pileon, and completely omitting to mention the many posts from both liberal and conservative posters that dissent from and criticize the OP. Yeah. I’m gonna assume that it was the strongest example filmore could find of the problem, and not just a half-assed attempt at an example, because the latter would be super poor form. So let’s look at this strong example of the problem he cites, of “unleashing pent-up frustration using relatively minor stuff as pretense.” As an OP, sure, it’s an example. But look at what’s in the first ten responses: > [@](#): > > So the man was wrong. I’ve been wrong. > … > Hardly worth pitting him over. > [@](#): > > Had a bit too much coffee this morning, **Cartooniverse**? > [@](#): > > Yeah, i’m not understanding the level of hate that seems to be at play here\*. > > \*And this is from a person that doesn’t like him that much, totally through my reasons rather than because of him, I admit. > [@](#): > > Chill the fuck out, nutcase. > [@](#): > > Are we individually pitting posters every time someone gives a wrong answer in GQ? > [@](#): > > **Chronos** knows way more about the technical aspects of this sort of thing than most of us, but to my non-scientist mind, I don’t see that he and **Bricker** are so far apart - certainly not so far apart to warrant a pitting… So, in the strongest example you can find of this problem–going back 14 years to find it–6 of the first ten responses are disagreeing with the OP. (Of the remaining four, one seems to be agreeing, and three are making dumb jokes). This looks, if anything, like evidence that the Pit doesn’t need a change: when people make stupid Pit threads, the Pit takes them to task for it. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-should-the-pit-be-changed-if-at-all/946859/812 "2021-09-04T02:46:29Z")
> [@Martini\_Enfield](#): > > Which are basically the same thing, because they are saying things in line with their political views and people don’t like it and start having a go at them. I think I made a very good explanation of why that isn’t the case, if you don’t take my statement out of context as you just did. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-should-the-pit-be-changed-if-at-all/946859.md?page=40)