# How should the Pit be changed, if at all? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [July 19, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-should-the-pit-be-changed-if-at-all/946859 "2021-07-19T23:19:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 323
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-should-the-pit-be-changed-if-at-all/946859/323 "2021-07-25T02:02:15Z")
The belief that only ‘badly behaving’ people get pitted is ridiculous. I don’t generally like posting personal examples, but I will offer one here. I started an op with this, posted in its entirety so I don’t get pitted for selective quoting: > [@](#): > > This is quite something. Donald Trump tweeted today: > > > [@](#): > > > > "I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History, the Russia Hoax. Likewise, the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal. No redactions! > > This follows a number of releases of some newly-declassified documents which at least suggest that not only was Russia/Collusion invented by the Hillary Clinton campaign to distract from her E-mail scandal, but that the CIA knew that Hillary was planning this and briefed President Obama about it beforehand. > > If true, this means that all the principles involved in the three year investigation of Trump knew that it was a political hit job right from the beginning. > > > [@](#): > > > > Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe on Tuesday declassified documents that revealed former CIA Director John Brennan briefed former President Obama on Hillary Clinton’s purported “plan” to tie then-candidate Donald Trump to Russia as “a… > > Yes, it’s a link to Fox News, but I used them because the article has the best set of links to the source documents. > > Possibly related, the Justice Department has annouced a press conference for tomorrow morning at 11 AM ‘on a matter of national security’. I have no idea what it is, but coming right after Trump’s order to declassify all documents related to the Russia Collusion investigation, I suspect it’s related. However, it could be them complaining about how dangerous the release of the docs is for national security or something. Or maybe they are going to announce new investigations in light of the release. > > Thoughts? My first one was that if Trump was guilty of any collusion at all, he would never have authorized the complete release of all documents without redaction. So at lest HE believs something is there that, if released, will help his re-election. Maybe he’s deluded. > > This does seem like a good candidate for an ‘October Surprise’. I’m interested in other ways to interpret this, though. I don’t trust either side to play straight these days, so getting both sides seems to be the only way to make sense of things. > > Comments? Speculation on the presser tomorrow? It includes the assistant Attorney General, the current Director of the FBI, the acting head of the Washington Field office of the FBI, and a U.S. attorney for Eastern Virginia. > > Based on the players, myt guess is that it looks like some sort of criminal investigation or indictment is coming down inside Virginia related to national security. A few points: First of all, that thread devolved into enough personal insults against me that the mods had to shut the thread down. _Yet not a single person got an official warning._ The mob, having lost their outlet to attack me there, then had their fun in this pit thread: > [@Sam Stone believes Trump's tweets](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633): > > The ridiculous “declassify” [thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-declassifies-all-documents-related-to-russia-collusion-and-hillary-emails/922448) was closed, so @Sam_Stone wasn’t able to come back and apologize for his tragic yet hilarious gullibility in accepting Trump’s tweets at face value. Care to do so here, Sam? Why on Earth did you think this was anything more than the random poo flinging Trump takes part in every day? That’s just one of many examples. Many of the pittings on this board have absolutely nothing to do with bad behaviour - they have to do woth one side of the political fence using the pit to attack the other side for their supposed gullibility, stupidity, or if they can find the thinnest reed to hang on, racist, sexist, misogynist or transphobic behaviour. If they just restricted it to the arguments, fine. But it always devolves into character attacks, often extremely vile ones, for the crime of being on the other side. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-should-the-pit-be-changed-if-at-all/946859)._