# How should the Pit be changed, if at all?

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**Created:** [July 19, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-should-the-pit-be-changed-if-at-all/946859 "2021-07-19T23:19:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-should-the-pit-be-changed-if-at-all/946859/96 "2021-07-21T16:44:19Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> > [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
> >
> > What’s the actually-a-troll to not-actually-a-troll ratio that would make that purpose constructive? You might catch a handful of trolls (who would have eventually been caught anyway), but you’ve unfairly attacked at least that many innocent new posters, some of whom say Fuck this place and leave.
> > 
> > It’s not worth the cost.
> 
> What’s the evidence for the vast numbers of innocent newbies being driven away by the Pit?

One, I wasn’t talking about the Pit, but about the troll-hunter threads.

Two, here are a few (old data, and the links no longer work):

> **List**
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> 1 [RavenSong](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 12/21/2018 Named a troll on 12/21/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21390911&postcount=8961) Last post on 12/21/2018 (Seemed not to understand the purpose of SDMB)  
> 2 [Benjarmyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 2/20/2019 Named a troll on 2/20/2019 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21497862&postcount=9289) Last post on 2/20/2019 (Banned for a coincidental name, then reinstated)  
> 3 [MortSahlFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 11/6/2018 Named a troll on 12/22/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21392073&postcount=8964) Last post on 3/29/2019 (Supposedly, a Russian bot)  
> 4 [Frank Burly](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 11/11/2018 Named a troll on 11/19/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21332285&postcount=8855) Last post on 1/19/2019 (No idea why)  
> 5 [Dacien](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 11/26/2018 Named a troll on 11/26/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21344067&postcount=8874) Last post on 3/28/2018 (“Oddly up to speed,” evidently)  
> 6 [EscAlaMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 7/16/2018 Named a troll on 9/11/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21202200&postcount=8722) Last post on 2/15/2019 (Held opinions that somebody didn’t agree with)  
> 7 [dredwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 9/14/2018 Named a troll on 9/14/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21207235&postcount=8739) Last post on 9/14/2018 (Seemed to have had “attitude”)  
> 8 [sanusense](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 10/3/2018 Named a troll on 10/4/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21248352&postcount=8782) Last post on 10/3/2018 (Name sounds a little like “nuisance”)  
> 9 [Grandma72](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 8/27/2018 Named a troll on 8/27/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21173195&postcount=8670) Last post on 8/27/2018 (Gastric distress after eating teriyaki.)  
> 10 [fschwartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 4/19/2002 Named a troll on 9/3/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21184135&postcount=8685) Last post on 9/3/2018 (Not a newbie, but a long-lost member. Last post was in the Omnibus thread)  
> 11 [Mumberthax](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 8/25/2018 Named a troll on 9/3/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21184449&postcount=8692) Last post on 11/16/2018 (Looked like a sock to somebody)  
> 12 [Alfishius](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 3/28/2016 Named a troll on 8/24/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21166809&postcount=8634) Last post on 2/15/2019 (Has a “weird posting pattern.” Not a newbie, exactly, but doesn’t post much.)  
> 13 [MosaicTruths](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 7/20/2018 Named a troll on 7/20/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21098718&postcount=8489) Last post on 7/20/2018 (Wanted homework help)  
> 14 [ohiomstr2](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 6/13/2018 Named a troll on 6/13/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21020854&postcount=8194) Last post on 3/17/2019 (Newbie who didn’t understand the board)  
> 15 [AuldWolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 6/10/2018 Named a troll on 6/10/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21012909&postcount=8138) Last post on 6/10/2018 (Had an opinion on a movie)  
> 16 [Boacrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 5/29/2018 Named a troll on 5/31/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20992618&postcount=8044) Last post on 5/31/2018 (Had an opinion and used the Pit as the Pit)  
> 17 [Ruined](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 5/15/2018 Named a troll on 5/16/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20962885&postcount=7918) Last post on 5/16/2018 (Had opinions others didn’t like)  
> 18 [LA Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 3/4/2018 Named a troll on 4/14/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20903304&postcount=7689) Last post on 3/29/2019 (Trump supporter)  
> 19 [nexopia](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 4/21/2018 Named a troll on 4/25/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20922787&postcount=7723) Last post on 4/29/2018 (Wondered if SDMB is mostly Boomers)  
> 20 [Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 5/5/2017 Named a troll on 4/28/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20929576&postcount=7741) Last post on 8/10/2018 (Made a joke)  
> 21 [crosspairnatural](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 4/7/2018 Named a troll on 4/8/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20891820&postcount=7661) Last post on 4/7/2018 (Asked a personal question)  
> 22 [Berty](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 4/8/2018 Named a troll on 4/8/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20891820&postcount=7661) Last post on 4/7/2018 (Asked a personal question)  
> 23 [Analog-Aptitude](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 4/18/2018 Named a troll on 4/19/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20912441&postcount=7694) Last post on 4/18/2018 (Simply a new poster)  
> 24 [lil\_sapiosexual](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 4/2/2018 Named a troll on 4/2/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20880926&postcount=7616) Last post on 4/2/2018 (Posted an opinion without using capital letters)  
> 25 [A Odom](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 3/24/2018 Named a troll on 3/25/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20866086&postcount=7571) Last post on 3/26/2018 (Evidently could not prove the resurrection in two days of posting)  
> 26 [Davidngrk](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) Joined 3/27/2018 Named a troll on 3/27/2018 [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20870272&postcount=7587) Last post on 4/4/2018 (Addicted to escorts)

> [@Gyrate](#):
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> > [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
> >
> > It’s not your call. Not alone, not in a group. Present your case to the mods.
> 
> And yet the mods themselves find it useful.

No more useful than reports would be:

> [@Most common reason to be Pitted Appears to be Dishonesty?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/most-common-reason-to-be-pitted-appears-to-be-dishonesty/946422/323):
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> Note that reporting potential trolls does much the same as the latter, and can also be extremely helpful to the mods. It’s generally preferable, as it doesn’t “poison the well” for other posters.

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