# How stupid can people get??

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 7, 2002, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711 "2002-05-07T13:23:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![blainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a698b9/32.png) [@blainer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blainer)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/21 "2002-05-07T16:53:06Z")

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> they have no sensitivity, i wont even let my two twin kids stand next to each other out of respect for 9/11

This could be the funniest thing I have ever read . . .

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**Author:** ![madcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@madcat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madcat)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/22 "2002-05-07T17:15:58Z")

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I hear they’re going after the San Antonio Spurs next.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/23 "2002-05-07T17:34:03Z")

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The thing that frightens me the most is that if these people are serious they can also VOTE!!!:eek:

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**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/24 "2002-05-07T17:41:13Z")

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To respond directly to the thread title: You don’t want to know. It’s worse than any of us imagine.

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/25 "2002-05-07T18:01:01Z")

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Hmmm… Although… Wasn’t the title to the Harry Potter movie changed in the U.S. from “…Philosopher’s Stone” to “…Sorcerer’s Stone” because they didn’t think American audiences would be able grasp it?

The original title has a lot more history to it, but I wouldn’t be entirely surprised if the title gets modified for U.S. audiences.

As for the general public calling it LOTR-2… I’ve seen a few websites that simply refer to it as “TTT.”

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/26 "2002-05-07T18:09:22Z")

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Oop! Forget what I just said, because I found this tid-bit:

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> Peter Jackson spoke with the _Chicago Sun-Times_ about the second Lord of the Rings movie - The Two Towers. Although the movie will be released next Christmas, director Peter Jackson says he has some qualms about the title, given the horrific events of Sept. 11. “It’s true that I’ve thought about what that title means now, I just pray that by the time the second movie comes out, it won’t cause any controversy.” “It’s a 50-year-old book. We can’t change the title. Tolkien fans would crucify us.”

I found this at [http://www.killermovies.com/lotr/articles/1572.html](http://www.killermovies.com/lotr/articles/1572.html) but the article is quite short. Presumably, the _Chicago Sun-Times_ article goes more in-depth.

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**Author:** ![JessEnigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cdc98d/32.png) [@JessEnigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JessEnigma)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/27 "2002-05-07T19:06:33Z")

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The name of the first Harry Potter _book_ in the U.S. was …Sorcerer’s Stone…so, not just for the movie.

jessica

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/28 "2002-05-07T19:35:40Z")

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I shall be the first to notify you that there is a [counter-petition](http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?trutower&101).

This should win me the adulation of the masses, and possibly a few groupies.

The other petition, BTW has, at last count, 2056 signatures, with no false ones that I have seen yet, a higher concentration of comments, and is vastly more fun to read.

Although there is a slight hope that the original is a joke. One of the signatories identifies herself as **Dani Klerck** , and tells of her cousin **kevin** “nearly [dying]” in the towers. The originator of the petition? **Kevin Klerck**. So, possibly, this is all an elabrate ruse.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/29 "2002-05-07T19:58:18Z")

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Or **elaborate**.

☹

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/30 "2002-05-07T20:02:18Z")

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Even [Petitiononline.com](http://Petitiononline.com) themselves are amazed:

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> Please Note: The Two Towers is the title of the JRR Tolkien book originally published in 1954, the second book of The Lord of the Rings trilogy. The title was thus established some 47 years prior to the attacks on the World Trade Center towers, and there is no evidence to suggest that Peter Jackson meant anything by continuing the same title other than faithfulness to the beloved Tolkien classics. Furthermore, the two distant, opposing towers in the Tolkien classic have very little if anything in common with the two matching towers of the World Trade Center.

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/31 "2002-05-07T20:06:37Z")

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Also, this is one of the necessary fields on the counter-petition:

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> I have read Two Towers before September 11, **1991** and can affirm that the title preceeds the tragedy

(emphasis mine)

I always thought the Gulf War was fought to seek revenge on Saddam Hussein’s destruction of the World Trade Center. Guess I was right.

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**Author:** ![Kyomara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8edcca/32.png) [@Kyomara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyomara)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/32 "2002-05-08T02:26:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Summers\_Son \*  
> **_Rolling on the floor_  
> oooh, thats soo funny, leave it to some dumb ass american housewives to cheer me up = )**

Thank God that your average Irish housewife is so much better informed in these matters :rolleyes:

My favorite: “I can’t believe that some people still have the nerve to wear matching pairs of shoes.”

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**Author:** ![Buck\_The\_Diver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Buck\_The\_Diver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_The_Diver)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/33 "2002-05-08T03:13:41Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ivylass \*  
> \*\*The thing that frightens me the most is that if these people are serious they can also VOTE!!!:eek: \*\*

Even worse…they can serve on JURIES!

:eek: :eek:

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/34 "2002-05-08T07:34:48Z")

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We’re seeing the teeming millions teem, people.

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**Author:** ![Nils](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Nils](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nils)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/35 "2002-05-08T15:53:47Z")

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Someone should start a petition to rename the Porsche 911 to something less offensive… ;)😉 😉

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**Author:** ![capybara](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/capybara/32/202_2.png) [@capybara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capybara)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/36 "2002-05-08T20:30:38Z")

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No no no no no. It’s a joke it’s a joke! JOKE! Very dry, and tasteless, but it’s a sham, people. And most of the “serious” signatures are also jokes.

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**Author:** ![everton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@everton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/everton)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/37 "2002-05-08T22:35:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Eve \*  
> I’m just sayin’ that the initial reaction of most people, on first seeing the posters and ads for the movie, will be “WHAAAAAA?” Then we will find out about the book and go, “Oh. Well, awfully bad timing, that . . .”

The poster for the first movie [looked like this](http://movieweb.com/movie/lordofrings1/poster.jpg) **Eve** , and I’m guessing the ads for the second one will look pretty similar, so if anybody mistakes it for a story about New York they really do need to get out more.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2002, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/38 "2002-05-09T01:25:31Z")

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> OK, I’m not saying the name of the movie should necessarily be changed. But I am not a sci-fi fan (or just, I guess, in the case of Tolkien, a “fi” fan). I had never heard of the book “The Two Towers” till this very moment. And if there’s a movie coming out next year with that title, yes, I would certainly have thought it’s about the World Trade Center.

Then again, you probably wouldn’t have gone to see it anyway, I’m guessing. Most folks who would be seeing the movie probably know the title of the book, so they’re not loosing any business on folks who don’t.

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2002, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/39 "2002-05-09T02:03:00Z")

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Forgive me if I’m wrong, but I have never seen the World Trade Center called the two towers.  
I’ve always seen them called **The Twin Towers**.

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**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2002, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/40 "2002-05-09T07:39:23Z")

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This is proably why we don’t see Duncan and Robinson of the Spurs play at the same time anymore.

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