# How stupid can people get??

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 7, 2002, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711 "2002-05-07T13:23:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2002, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/41 "2002-05-09T13:55:35Z")

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My favourite (so far):

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> **1128. Omid: TOLKIEN WAS A PROFIT, HE PREDICTED WTC BOMBING 47 YEARS BEFORE THE FACT, AND THE THIRD MOVIE IS RETURN OF THE KING. JESUS IS COMING BACK YOU HAD BETTER RECOGNIZE**

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**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2002, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/42 "2002-05-09T14:06:17Z")

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> **THE THIRD MOVIE IS RETURN OF THE KING. JESUS IS COMING BACK YOU HAD BETTER RECOGNIZE**

Tolkien ain’t talkin’ ‘bout Jee-zus, he’s talkin’ 'bout _Ayl-viss!_

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**Author:** ![Atreyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@Atreyu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atreyu)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2002, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/43 "2002-05-09T15:20:37Z")

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This one is a lot of fun, in a weird semi-stream-of-consciousness kind of way:

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> 1229. Osama -Yeah, i read The Two Towers when they first cam out… where do you think i got the idea?.. yeah, from a f\*ck’n fantasy book!!! ARE YOU NUTS??? I HATE HOW EVERYONE USES 9-11 AS AN EXCUES… NO, I DIDNT COMPLETE THE ASSIGNMENT, BECAUSE OF 9-11…i want a pet monkey because of 9-11… i want to get laid because of 9-11(… i should try that one)…and yeah…GET A LIFE BECAUSE OF 9-11!!

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**Author:** ![Jervoise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d2c977/32.png) [@Jervoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jervoise)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2002, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/44 "2002-05-09T15:40:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Eve \*  
> \*\*I’m just sayin’ that the initial reaction of most people, on first seeing the posters and ads for the movie, will be “WHAAAAAA?” Then we will find out about the book and go, “Oh. Well, awfully bad timing, that . . .” \*\*

Not people living outside the US. Never heard of the World Trade Centre referred to as “The Two Towers” until this thread. The title of the second volume (or, the third and fourth books if you wanna get picky) of _The Lord of the Rings_ is common knowledge, however.

'Course, we’re all in agreeance here. 🙂

**Fiver** , that was a thing of beauty.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2002, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/45 "2002-05-09T16:06:09Z")

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> Tolkien ain’t talkin’ ‘bout Jee-zus, he’s talkin’ 'bout Ayl-viss!

"Well, the world’s in a great commotion  
From the Misty Mountains down to the Shire  
The Hobbits are sneakin’ and wanderin’  
From the frying pan into the fire  
Somewhere we gotta get a hero  
That’s what the bards all sing  
But the never expected the rockin’ and rollin’ I bring . . .

It’s the return of the king (uh-huh)"

-Tom Smith

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2002, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/46 "2002-05-09T16:17:12Z")

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Just out of curiosity – has any of these stupid online petitions ever actually changed something?

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**Author:** ![Swampwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Swampwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swampwolf)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2002, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/47 "2002-05-09T16:31:39Z")

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…notice that they were “voiding false entries” left and right in the beginning. But they’re letting people have more fun with it now. I think we’ll continue to see funny (and often stupid) gag replies. Mark my words. Tolkien isn’t the only prophet…

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2002, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-can-people-get/107711/48 "2002-05-14T18:16:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by capybara \*  
> \*\*No no no no no. It’s a joke it’s a joke! JOKE! Very dry, and tasteless, but it’s a sham, people. And most of the “serious” signatures are also jokes. \*\*

Yes. It is a sham. On another board I post on, there’s one guy who frequents other forums that Kevin Klerck frequently posts to. Supposedly Klerck has earned the reputation of the “ultimate slashdot troll.”

So, yeah, its one big joke by a guy who has a history of getting people worked up. The fact that the guys at somethingawful supposedly signed this as well seems to support this.

Although, I do wonder about some of those entries that seem like they actually take the petition seriously…

And about the person who asked if online petitions accomplish anything–they do not. Even handsigned petitions are generally not worth the paper they’re printed on. Phone calls, handwritten letters, and to some extent email are the only effective ways (other than arranging a _tete-a-tete_ meeting) to accomplish things like this. (Well, if you can generate enough press, that can help too.)

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