# How stupid do these anti-choicers think we are?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-do-these-anti-choicers-think-we-are/662813>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 6, 2013, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-do-these-anti-choicers-think-we-are/662813 "2013-07-06T21:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-do-these-anti-choicers-think-we-are/662813/421 "2013-09-04T20:20:03Z")

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The local Planned Parenthood is right opposite our library, so I talk to them a lot.

Believe you me, if you spend any time with these protestors, you realize just how fucking much they absolutely hate women.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-do-these-anti-choicers-think-we-are/662813/422 "2013-09-04T20:32:42Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> . . . tubal litigation . . .

Ligation, as in ligature: a tight band or cincture or string around the Fallopian Tubes to prevent the passage of ova.

(The litigation, of course, appears in the form of court cases and appeals. You could claim it was a deliberate pun: it’s a good one!)

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-do-these-anti-choicers-think-we-are/662813/423 "2013-09-04T20:54:24Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Ligation, as in ligature: a tight band or cincture or string around the Fallopian Tubes to prevent the passage of ova.
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> (The litigation, of course, appears in the form of court cases and appeals. You could claim it was a deliberate pun: it’s a good one!)

I wish I were that clever.

No, that was more muscle memory from typing “litigation” tens of thousands of times and “ligation” hardly ever.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-do-these-anti-choicers-think-we-are/662813/424 "2013-09-05T01:04:37Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I don’t think this is wise legislation.

On reading it more closely, I doubt it’s even legal for a city in California to create a civil cause of action, as provision 0.40 seems to try to do. (I live in a strict Dillon’s Rule state, so maybe I’m wrong, but I strongly suspect this provision is utterly void ab initio.)

I still don’t believe the claim that it would prohibit giving or getting a tubal ligation, or condoms. I think that’s one of those “We hate this, so let’s make up bad shit about it,” tactics.

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**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-do-these-anti-choicers-think-we-are/662813/425 "2013-09-05T01:40:08Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I wish I were that clever.
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> No, that was more muscle memory from typing “litigation” tens of thousands of times and “ligation” hardly ever.

You couldn’t have claimed it anyway as it was DiosaBellisima who made the initial typo.

ETA: And I agree that there is nothing in the legislation that would prevent tubal ligation or condoms (unless we are reaaalllyyy stretc ing the beginnings ofbiological development).

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-do-these-anti-choicers-think-we-are/662813/426 "2013-09-05T01:42:32Z")

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> [@Cyros](#):
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> You couldn’t have claimed it anyway as it was DiosaBellisima who made the initial typo.

It’s pervasive – I made the same error a second time just above and had to edit my correction in.

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**Author:** ![Karrius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@Karrius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karrius)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-do-these-anti-choicers-think-we-are/662813/427 "2013-09-05T22:09:45Z")

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While not the same thread, you remember the conservatives on this board insisting up and down that pro-choice people were throwing feces and urine at politicians, and thus women should be banned from having tampons?

> **[Documents Still Show No Evidence of Excrement at Abortion Debate](https://www.texastribune.org/2013/08/26/dps-documents-show-no-proof-excrements/)**
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> More than a month after the Texas Department of Public Safety announced that people during the July 12 abortion debate had attempted to bring urine and feces to the Capitol, official documents show no proof the items existed.

Yeah it turns out they just actually hate women.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-do-these-anti-choicers-think-we-are/662813/428 "2013-09-05T22:44:04Z")

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The husband of one of my cousins works for some Christian law firm…he was actually spreading the word on his blog that the protestors were throwing used tampons and yelling “hail Satan”. I think his poor wife actually believes this crap.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-do-these-anti-choicers-think-we-are/662813/429 "2013-09-05T23:27:59Z")

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> [@WolfpackJeep](#):
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> . . . the protestors were throwing used tampons . . .

Hmm. Now, what **don’t** you ordinarily have on or in you when you go to an abortion clinic?

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-do-these-anti-choicers-think-we-are/662813/430 "2013-09-05T23:41:45Z")

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> [@Karrius](#):
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> While not the same thread, you remember the conservatives on this board insisting up and down that pro-choice people were throwing feces and urine at politicians, and thus women should be banned from having tampons?

It looks like those conservatives on this board were wrong.

Who were they, so that I may chastise them?

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**Author:** ![Karrius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@Karrius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karrius)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-do-these-anti-choicers-think-we-are/662813/431 "2013-09-05T23:51:37Z")

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My bad and I mean this non-sarcastically. I thought it was a group of people, and even remembered a name I was wrong on, but instead I can only find posts by magellan01 explaining how taking away tampons and trashing diabetes medication is OK because of these non-existent jars of shit.

And really, when magellan01 is ignorant and hateful about the health of women and others parroting lies given to him by conservative websites, it’s not really news. It’s just Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-stupid-do-these-anti-choicers-think-we-are/662813/432 "2013-09-06T00:54:16Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> It looks like those conservatives on this board were wrong.
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> Who were they, so that I may chastise them?

Quality of mercy is not strained. They should have the option of lethal injection in lieu of a **Bricker** chastisement. Cruel, certainly. Perhaps not _that_ unusual…

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